Go Back   Aquarium Advice - Aquarium Forum Community > Saltwater and Reef > Saltwater & Reef - Sick Fish or Coral
Click Here to Login

Join Aquarium Advice Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com
 
Old 11-10-2008, 02:06 PM   #1
Aquarium Advice Activist
 
DJLiquid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 162
ICH ICK and more ICK

My Royal Gramma has ich after 3 months of being fine and now my super cool percula clown seems to be getting it. I really don't know what the use of placing them in a QT tank will be when they will just get it again. I don't have another tank at work anyway (that's were my nano reef is) and wouldn't be allowed to. Both of the fish still have their voracious appetites. Is it possible for the ich to eventually go away? How do fish in the wild cope with ich ??? If these fish croak I am only going to keep coral as these parasites are too much of a headache.
__________________

__________________
14 gal biocube salt
1 orange zoo polyp colony, 2 toad stool (small), 1 umbrella leather (large), 2 pulsing xenia, 1 star polyp colony, 7 blue mushrooms, snails, pep. shrimp, 3 blue legged hermits, 2 onyx percula clowns
DJLiquid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2008, 02:16 PM   #2
Aquarium Advice Activist
 
DJLiquid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 162
All my water parameters are ok. I started doing weekly water changes (10%) two weeks ago.
__________________

__________________
14 gal biocube salt
1 orange zoo polyp colony, 2 toad stool (small), 1 umbrella leather (large), 2 pulsing xenia, 1 star polyp colony, 7 blue mushrooms, snails, pep. shrimp, 3 blue legged hermits, 2 onyx percula clowns
DJLiquid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2008, 02:21 PM   #3
Aquarium Advice Activist
 
DJLiquid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 162
I use distilled water and red sea salt.
SG- 1.023 which I started using two weeks ago. Before that I used the Ocean water in a box, maybe I should have just stuck to that.
__________________
14 gal biocube salt
1 orange zoo polyp colony, 2 toad stool (small), 1 umbrella leather (large), 2 pulsing xenia, 1 star polyp colony, 7 blue mushrooms, snails, pep. shrimp, 3 blue legged hermits, 2 onyx percula clowns
DJLiquid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2008, 02:28 PM   #4
AA Team Emeritus
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,462
No, all three must be quarantined. I would use hyposalinity and leave the tank fallow for at least 30-45 days, this way ich will not be reintroduced.
__________________
Innovator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2008, 03:23 PM   #5
Aquarium Advice Activist
 
DJLiquid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 162
Would the hypo-salinity hurt my polyps?
__________________
14 gal biocube salt
1 orange zoo polyp colony, 2 toad stool (small), 1 umbrella leather (large), 2 pulsing xenia, 1 star polyp colony, 7 blue mushrooms, snails, pep. shrimp, 3 blue legged hermits, 2 onyx percula clowns
DJLiquid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2008, 03:27 PM   #6
Aquarium Advice Activist
 
DJLiquid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 162
Doesn't ich just become dormant and lay waiting if no host is available to prey upon?
__________________
14 gal biocube salt
1 orange zoo polyp colony, 2 toad stool (small), 1 umbrella leather (large), 2 pulsing xenia, 1 star polyp colony, 7 blue mushrooms, snails, pep. shrimp, 3 blue legged hermits, 2 onyx percula clowns
DJLiquid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2008, 03:32 PM   #7
AA Team Emeritus
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,462
There is no dormant stage, but reproduction phases can vary. Hyposalinity is conducted in the quarantine tank, not your main system.
__________________
Innovator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2008, 03:32 PM   #8
SW REEF 18+ YEARS
Community Admin
 
melosu58's Avatar



Tank of the Month Award
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Virginia
Posts: 38,249
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJLiquid View Post
I really don't know what the use of placing them in a QT tank will be when they will just get it again.
The purpose of the QT is to treat the fish so it wont be introduced back in the system. I`m not innovator but he was suggesting you QT your fish and treat with hypo. He mentioned leaving your main tank fishless for 30-45 days.
__________________

SITE ADMINISTRATOR

You can view many of my fish and corals in my photo albums in my profile.

View my tank


AA Community Rules|AA TOS

Forums 101 - posting, accounts, basics
melosu58 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2008, 09:03 PM   #9
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: not here anymore
Posts: 5,338
A couple good articles...

Marine Ich/Cryptocaryon irritans - A Discussion of this Parasite and the Treatment Options Available, Part I by Steven Pro - Reefkeeping.com
Marine Ich/Cryptocaryon irritans - A Discussion of this Parasite and the Treatment Options Available, Part II by Steven Pro - Reefkeeping.com

And the best article on hypo...

ATJ's Marine Aquarium Site - Reference - Hyposalinity Treatment

As Innovator mentioned, the best thing for the fish is to put them in a QT and do hyposalinity on them. Then let your main tank go fishless for 6-8 weeks which will break the life cycle of the ich and they will not be able to survive. At the end of the 6-8 weeks, you can reintroduce your fish to the main tank and be fairly well assured that the ich is gone, assuming you follow the hyposalinity instructions to a 't'.

If you do hypo in your main tank, it will kill everything that is not a fish - including corals and polyps. Basic rule I've always subscribed to... if a treatment kills ich, it will kill everything else too. As you can tell, I'm not a huge proponent of "reef safe" ich treatments.
__________________
Kurt_Nelson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2008, 10:04 PM   #10
SW REEF 18+ YEARS
Community Admin
 
melosu58's Avatar



Tank of the Month Award
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Virginia
Posts: 38,249
Good articles by Kurt but let me add one about QT`s

An Ounce of Prevention is Worth a Pound of Cure: A Quarantine Tank for Everything by Steven Pro - Reefkeeping.com
__________________

__________________

SITE ADMINISTRATOR

You can view many of my fish and corals in my photo albums in my profile.

View my tank


AA Community Rules|AA TOS

Forums 101 - posting, accounts, basics
melosu58 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
ich, ick

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
I got ick! or ich! colossus3200 Saltwater & Reef - Sick Fish or Coral 11 07-21-2006 09:16 PM
Ich, Ick or whatever you want to call it the21kid Saltwater & Reef - Sick Fish or Coral 12 02-10-2005 04:32 PM
Ick...Ich... ericmatz Freshwater & Brackish - Unhealthy Fish 12 04-15-2004 09:49 PM
GOLDFISH and ICH (ICK??) HOLLIEO Freshwater & Brackish - Unhealthy Fish 4 07-13-2003 03:49 AM
Ick or Ich question New2Salt Saltwater & Reef - Sick Fish or Coral 2 01-02-2003 08:11 PM







» Photo Contest Winners








Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:20 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.