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Old 02-26-2016, 10:20 PM   #11
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So them spots magically appear on the fish then and did not take the free floating stage to get on the fish and affect others by the time you see them spots it's to late !!!

Also some fish will not show any signs or spots at all but the ich will be nicely snug in there gill membranes.
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Old 02-26-2016, 10:27 PM   #12
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Just to add my system is pristine has all the best equipment nitrates 0-2.5 phosphate 0.03 and all other paremeters kept in check with a 7 stage dosing system but it's still in mine !!!

Ich don't care where it lives the reason you want pristine water is to keep the fish healthy and keep stress down which then gives less chance of infection all be it the ich will still be in the tank as it is in mine.

All my stock are fine apart from the odd spot coming up on the foxface I introduced a lipstick tang and it was plastered within 2 days with Ich it had no stress and nothing bothered it as all my fish are laid back the lipstick died from it I don't bother adding anything now.

Tangs are very prone to it but I also have in mine

Sailfin Tang
Kole Tang
Jewel Tang
Yellow Tang

And they show absolutely no signs of it at all.
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Old 02-26-2016, 10:44 PM   #13
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I know that it will be in my system but I'm not worried about, when you have depleted water conditions that will bring stress in your tank will cause fish to become sick due to a ammune system malfunction, that's why I said my water is pristine. My fish are happy and they eat well. I have a variety of foods for them.Plenty of live rock & plenty of hiding places. I have a large Niger trigger, Yellow Hawaiian tang, a coral beauty angelfish, 2 domino damsels, and a condylactus anemone.
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Man I ain't trying to have a battle of who's knowledge is greater about ick, but answer this how can ick be free floating in a tank that's new and the fish only been in there for two weeks?
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It can come in on the fish or in a drop of water a coral frag an Invert anything that's wet entering the DT can contain it if a fish has spots it's been in contact with the free floating stage so the water in the bag with the fish will contain the free floating stage as if they had come from a QT system strait into a DT they would not have Ich present in any form.
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My fish icked out from a faulty heater and the only one that did was my angelfish my trigger got a freshwater dip because I just bought him day before yesterday.
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My other fish are doing fine they've been in there the longest without ick spots.Thats my tang and 2 domino damels.
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My LFS gave me Metroplex from Seachem today. I haven't opened the package. What can you tell me about this product.

The gramma is doing fine. She is eating and coming out and moving around the tank more (I have had her about two weeks - she is settling in). The first two spots have dropped off and there is one left. Now I wait to see if any more attach to her, or if maybe she is settled and not so stressed and able to fight it off.
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I would defo hold of any chemicals as there is no such thing as a reef safe med that will kill ich 100%.

The problem is some meds can play havoc with the balance and good bacteria in your tank if the fish are looking better and as you are FOWLR I would suggest dimming the lights down ,keep water quality good and feed well.

A healthy fish that is not stressed will shake it off.
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Old 02-27-2016, 03:16 PM   #20
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Last night I spent many hours researching freshwater dips for ick ,

freshwater dip: will remove early stage ick YES

returning fish to tank after dip will prevent ick from returning NO

is a tank that held infected fish contaminated YES

will all tank mates infected YES all fish in same tank are contaminated

ick is a water born molecule True

Copper is a well proven method to kill ick True

My findings are freshwater dips do help ick , but only at early stages also any and all fish in the tank that has ick will also be infected and will need treatment, just a fast dip to return to a ick infested tank will not work .

ick is a water born molecule that will attach to fish to survive , this is why you always here people say put all fish into QT and treat with copper the only true known cure,
during this QT period your tank will remain fallow 4 to 8 weeks this will kill of any ich molecules remaining in the tank as they won't have any fuel to survive a fishes flesh is the fuel ,

you may notice only 1 fish seems to be infected but once he is introduced to the tank the whole tank is now contaminated this is why you need to follow the procedures to get rid of it

conclusion the only true cure to ick is qt with copper along with keeping the infected tank fallow 4 to 8 weeks

I agree a freshwater dip solves some issues but when it comes to ick I'll only trust copper
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