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Old 02-12-2005, 03:09 AM   #1
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is it safe to raise temp to 86?

i got a purple tang
flame angel
misc corals
few gobys
shrimps crabs

Are these safe if i rasie the temp to 86 to kill ick?
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Old 02-12-2005, 03:22 AM   #2
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depends for how long and how quickly u raise it, in any case 84 is the highest recomended temp, u could also lower salinity
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what is the recommmended length of time i should do it for?

and if i raise it 1-2 degrees over night, does that sound like an ok plan?
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If u change the salinity i would do it very slowly like 1.0023 to 1.0018 over a period of a week minimum if not 2 weeks.

temp as long as you dont go to high and again i think 86 is really pushing it i would do 1 degree every other day
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Old 02-12-2005, 09:00 AM   #5
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I have read a couple of articles that caution [i]against[/] the use of lowered salinity for corals and inverts in general. Can you provide an opinion here?
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30 gal standard 55 lbs LR, 60 lb live sand, 10 gal sump/refugium. Urchin skimmer, mag7 pump, 3 x 96W PC combination 10,000K/actinic bulb, 2 blue LED moonlights
SG 1.024, temp 79.5, pH 8.4

Livestock I added:

1 skunk cleaner. 12 hermits: red, scarlet, blue. 15 or so assorted snails. Discosomas, Ricordia, Rhodactis mushroom corals, chaetomorpha (sump), 1 feather duster, Montipora digitata, Montipora capricornis, Montipora hispids. assorted zoos, Xenia, Kenya tree coral, green Sinularia, green star polyps, branching hammer coral, bubble coral, Devil's hand leather. Yellow chromis, purple firefish.

Hitchhikers: the usual suspects :crabs, bristles, urchin, mantis shrimp (now in exile in mantis tank)

List of possible/likely newcomers:

Feather duster. PJ cardinal, Bangghai cardinal, Firefish goby, Clownfish, Neon goby, Yellow watchman goby, Orchid dottyback. Various corals.
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got a purple tang
flame angel
misc corals
few gobys
shrimps crabs

Are these safe if i rasie the temp to 86 to kill ick?
IMO, very stressful on your stock and will not do a thing to solve your problem.
Read here for better info.
http://www.petsforum.com/personal/tr...marineich.html
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Old 02-12-2005, 09:28 AM   #7
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very stressful on your stock and will not do a thing to solve your problem.
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Agreed, the temp cure only works for FW, not SW. Ruby Reef's Kick Ick does work if you have a situation as to not being able to set up a QT. I used it in my 46, no deaths of any inverts and I have been without any hint of ick for a while. I don't recommend using anything in your display but I didn't have a choice, my qt is harboring a couple fugtives and I didn't want my good fish in there with them .
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Agreed, the temp cure only works for FW, not SW

Elevated temperature might, however, speed up the life cycle of the parasite, thus shortening the time needed to effect a cure.
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30 gal standard 55 lbs LR, 60 lb live sand, 10 gal sump/refugium. Urchin skimmer, mag7 pump, 3 x 96W PC combination 10,000K/actinic bulb, 2 blue LED moonlights
SG 1.024, temp 79.5, pH 8.4

Livestock I added:

1 skunk cleaner. 12 hermits: red, scarlet, blue. 15 or so assorted snails. Discosomas, Ricordia, Rhodactis mushroom corals, chaetomorpha (sump), 1 feather duster, Montipora digitata, Montipora capricornis, Montipora hispids. assorted zoos, Xenia, Kenya tree coral, green Sinularia, green star polyps, branching hammer coral, bubble coral, Devil's hand leather. Yellow chromis, purple firefish.

Hitchhikers: the usual suspects :crabs, bristles, urchin, mantis shrimp (now in exile in mantis tank)

List of possible/likely newcomers:

Feather duster. PJ cardinal, Bangghai cardinal, Firefish goby, Clownfish, Neon goby, Yellow watchman goby, Orchid dottyback. Various corals.
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Agreed, the temp cure only works for FW, not SW

Elevated temperature might, however, speed up the life cycle of the parasite, thus shortening the time needed to effect a cure.
Actually you will end up increasing the time the fish needs to be treated in the long run. 86° is the optimal temp in which C. irritans reproduces but it does nothing to break the lifecycle. In regards to fish in these temp's, it alters the pH of the fish's blood supressing their immune system. Even with a proper cure in place it allows the parasite more opportunity to infest a fish. Keep in mind that the parasite is only vulnerable during the theront stage. You also increase the instances of secondary infection caused by the actions of the trophonts which the fish might otherwise heal on it's own if the conditions remained optimal. You risk more than you solve.

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