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Old 07-17-2013, 11:17 PM   #11
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the mandarin will have to be treated with hyposalinity forgot about that maybe get another tank that you will use for the refuge and treat the mandarin in that with hyposalinity
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Old 07-18-2013, 03:41 AM   #12
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The mandarin is the only problem with this. Unless he is eating frozen food he will probably starve to death while the DT is sitting fallow.
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nothing good is coming of this.

we dont have the money/resources/time to run a qt for 6 weeks.

we are supplementing with garlic etc. religous water changes, and hoping for the best.

none of the other fish are showing any other symptoms so....
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Old 07-18-2013, 06:03 PM   #14
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You could run all of the fish in QT together just using hyposalinity. However, as Mebbid said, unless the mandarin is eating frozen or pellets, he will likely starve in QT for lack of pods to hunt and eat. Unfirtunately, there's no real good solution for that particular fish.

If you have no inverts, you could do hyposalinity in the DT for 6 weeks and kill the parasite that way as well. You'll still be in the same boat with the mandarin, however.

EDIT: Nevermind the hypo in the DT. i just looked back at the photo and saw the mushrooms.
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Old 07-18-2013, 07:38 PM   #15
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Is the mandarin eating anything other than pods?
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Old 07-18-2013, 08:02 PM   #16
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yeah i really can't do anything in my dt. I have a bunch of coral.

The mandarin does eat frozen..when he wants to. He is selective, he gobbles hatched brine, and is pretty partial to frozen brine when it is wiggling just the right way, and he has eaten mysis a few times that i have seen.

Today none of the fish are showing any signs of ich. I have been dosing with garlic and feeding small amounts all through the day.

I know QT is best...but I have been reading of fat happy fish resisting he parasite and eventually dying off in the dt. And that a cleaner shrimp and wrasse helps which I have both.
Has anyone found any truth to this personally?
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Old 07-18-2013, 08:03 PM   #17
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The tang was the newest addition and showed symptoms after 3 days. He was removed and taken to the lfs for treatment immediately. Could it have only been on him...?
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It is in the tank. Starts off on the fish, drops off into sand/rock at a certain stage. It then multiplies and goes looking for a new host.

Fish can overcome stuff like Ich and they can have it without showing signs. Its the risk you take with not doing the QT treatment plus the fallow tank. Your fish might look healthy, the Ich is in the tank and you add a new fish down the road and the Ich "reappears" on them due to them being stressed.

Cleaner shrimp and gobies eat what is on the skin. The Ich parasite burrows into skin, so that white spot is not the parasite, but a skin reaction to it. They won't dig into the fish to get it. They don't hurt, but don't cure either.
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Thanks a lot everyone.

There is so much information to sift through on the topic, it can be really overwhelming.
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