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Old 03-17-2005, 01:51 PM   #11
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What kinda water are you using???

could be something in the water.
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Old 03-17-2005, 06:45 PM   #12
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I think I figured it out.

Took my water and my SG tester to a good LFS. Come to find out my SG meter is off pretty bad. It is off .0025-.003 or so. I had my water set to 1.021 on that meter...which was making it pretty low. I bought a new one today.

Along with 20lbs of live sand for that tank. So I don't think my cycle will take long this time.

I do believe that was my problem.
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Old 03-17-2005, 06:49 PM   #13
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I will be doing the fishless cycle on my 38 gallon too. Thanks for the information.

Back when I did salt water the first time I never heard anything of this sort.
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Old 03-17-2005, 08:01 PM   #14
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Old 03-17-2005, 09:25 PM   #15
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You think the low salinity played a factor in the fish's death?
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I don't think that the low salinity by itself could have caused their demise. I do think that pH swings as a result of low salinity/alkalinity or possibly shock from going from one SG to another too fast may have contributed. What was your acclimation procedure? Did you test the salinity and pH before and after introducing the fish? Sometimes that can play a part.

I have 2 fish doing hypo right now which is at a salinity of 1.009 and they're fairing quite well. They were brought down that low over the course of three or four days though.
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Old 03-18-2005, 12:31 AM   #17
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The low salinity could have been the straw that broke the camels back.

I do have a little bit of ammonia. But not much. However I did do a partial after the first one died so I could have took the level down some. I know I shouldn't have done a partial yet but I was attempting to save the fish.

Local store had their water at 1.026 according to my gauge...so around 1.024. While my water was actually 1.018-1.019. I let the bag float for awhile. Then slowly started letting water in. Over the course of 15 min or so and then released them. They did well for a few days. Then started acting bad and died.
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it is very hard to tell... all in all IMO you just added the damsels too quick. I added my live rock, which was fully cured from my lfs and kept with fish in the tank(unlike a lot of lfs who sell "live rock" that is just in a tank by itself with a skimmer), and experienced no cycle at all. i added 2 baby O. clowns 5 days after the live rock but i will still admit that even with no cycle i added them too early. i'd wait if i were you till your pH is stable and everything 0's out as far as ammonia, nitrite, and nitrates go.
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I don't think the difference in SG would have killed the fish... Damels are very hardy fish and survive quite a bit of stuff (which is why they are used to cycle the tank). I think you would have lost the damsels in a period of two days if you had shocked them due to SG changes.
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If they were shocked due to the change would it normally take them a couple days to die?
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