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Old 11-28-2006, 04:24 PM   #11
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I have iodine, not Lugols. Is that an aquarium-specific treatment?

The torch isn't that close - a foot or so.
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Old 11-28-2006, 04:32 PM   #12
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Looks like brown jelly disease. It may well be a chemical problem in your water. I've never seen shrooms in this advanced decay, make a recovery. Something is definately bothering them. Are the corals in your "myinfo" box current? Do you run carbon at all? Everyone else is looking fine? How is the frog spawn doing? Still one head drawn in?
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Old 11-28-2006, 05:22 PM   #13
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Treatment suggestion?
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Old 11-28-2006, 06:22 PM   #14
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Are the corals in your "myinfo" box current? Do you run carbon at all? Everyone else is looking fine? How is the frog spawn doing? Still one head drawn in?
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Treatment would be to improve tank conditions. Something in the tank is irritating them, causing them to fail. Need to find out the cause before more corals are effected. Brown jelly is fast spreading disease. Usual course of treatment to save any part of the coral is to fragging. Watch your frogspawn and be prepared to remove the infected head if necessary.
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Old 11-28-2006, 09:51 PM   #15
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Fluff, you know I'm not a n00b, and my tank is going on 9 months old. That doesn't make me a veteran by any means, but I understand water quality quite well.

AFAIK, my tanks conditions are excellent. I religiously perform PWC, and all critical params have been stable for over 6 months.

I've had these shrooms for 5 months or so, and they've excelled up until the last 2 weeks (when I switched to Reef Crystals salt). Otherwise, no changes, aside from steady *improvement* in water quality.

I have zoos, xenias, a condy, a BTA, galaxea, 5 GSP colonies, (in addition to the fish) all doing very, very well, and all growing.

I don't see any evidence of the jelly stuff on the frogspawn, but I still dipped it in the lugols iodine treatment as per instructions. I also dipped the rock the shrooms were on (where some jelly stuff still remained). The jelly appears to be isolated to that rock, and its been treated.

I believe, honestly, that I didn't lose anything aside from 1 mushroom. I've since found 4 of them scattered in other parts of the tank. Something (the jelly?) was irritating them and they moved.

I'm still pointing my finger at the salt mix change. That's the biggest suspect right now.
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Old 11-28-2006, 10:19 PM   #16
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It could be, that's why I agreed with you it could be chemical. Just offering suggestions. Good luck.
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Fluff, I appreciate the inputm, as always. You were the first person to reply to my first post here back in February, when I had these strange worms coming out at night (bristle womrs).

I'll always appreciate that, and remember you for that.

But when you say I "need to improve water quality", that was kinda like telling a mechanic who's car has broken down to use better oil. (Best analogy I could come up with.)

As everyone else here, I'm always trying to provide the best water quality.

I needed to know, once it was ID'd, how to deal with brown jelly problems, and a generic response like that was a little insulting
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no, actually it was spot on, not insulting at all. You need to improve the water quality to help prevent it from spreading, you also need to trim the head to keep it from spreading. Lugols will just aggravate the situation.
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By improving, I didn't suggest your water parameters are off or that your maintenance is not up to where it should be, it's that your water may be "off". Rather it be from the change of salts or chemical warefare, I have no way of knowing but the best defense will be/is to try and fix the water issue. You will also want to remove the infected corals to keep it from spreading.
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Hara - aMy frogspawn isn't showing any symptoms of brown jelly - just the shrooms. I treated it anyway (as per suggestion above and from reputable LFS).

So - you and Fluff are saying poor water quality causes brown jelly? After some research tonight I don't think that's the case, but that's still a pretty vague statement.

I'm looking for help with dealing with this stuff, and that's just not helpful. Do you mean dissolved organics? Nitrates? Redox? Water turnover? Trace elements?
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