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Old 06-04-2004, 08:25 PM   #11
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How many fish do you have?
Is there any way your lfs will take them, and give you some kind of fture credit? (ichless of course)

Not a very good answer to your problem, but I have thought about it myself.
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Old 06-04-2004, 08:32 PM   #12
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Have you considered this may not be C. irritans?

I know it's going to be near impossible to get a clear pic but try if you can.

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The thought of not ich has come across my mind. But the symptom is too close to ich and not velvet. Unless there is something similar to salt grain sized spots that I am not aware of. I'll see if I can get a picture tomorrow when the lights come back on. I doubt it though. Is like telling my child to hold still whilst taking their photo.

I have 4 fish left, a yellow tang, regal tang, clarkii, and marron. And I have asked if my LFS would take them back, the answer was no!
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Old 06-04-2004, 08:47 PM   #14
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I have a question what if you don't see white spots what if hte fish are just scratching. Is that still ich or is that something else?

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The thought of not ich has come across my mind. But the symptom is too close to ich and not velvet. Unless there is something similar to salt grain sized spots that I am not aware of. I'll see if I can get a picture tomorrow when the lights come back on. I doubt it though. Is like telling my child to hold still whilst taking their photo.

I have 4 fish left, a yellow tang, regal tang, clarkii, and marron. And I have asked if my LFS would take them back, the answer was no!
It may be velvet. I was fooled into thinking my outbreak was ich until fish starting dropping like flies.
Seriously, I would try the cupramine along with the longer fallow period before you throw in the towel.
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QS: The spots are not fine enough to be velvet. But I'll make sure. But this is exactly the same symptom in my previous attempt to QT them.

Christina: I would say the first sign of ich is when the fish starts scratching. After a day or so, you will see the white spots developing.
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Ich

Try a couple Neon Gobys. They cleaned the Ich off my tang and large tomato clown. Since I put them in my tank, I've not had another problem with Ich.
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And when the gobies become infested what then

Stick to proven methods and you will have less (or hopefully no) problems with keeping your fish healthy.

Kwan, if after all your fish where properly treated with hyposalinity for 4 weeks and the tank was left fallow for 6, I am at a loss. C. irritans can simply not survive the 16 ppt salinity for that period. The only thing that makes any sense is the fallow period was not sufficient, the treatment went askew or it's not ich.

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Steve, I agreed 4 weeks with hypo should be enough. It must be the fallow period not enough.

I have not move my yellow tang to QT yet because he is enjoying the better quality water in the main tank. And he is definitely looking healthier even though he has ich. However, I also observed he is getting help from my cleaner shrimps. The ich has been clearing up , with one or two cropping up each day, but doesn't look like manifesting itself.

Previously I had a couple of neon gobys which I was told by my LFS will control the ich. That was until they got infested and died. So neon gobys are just as vulnerable as other fish. I still believe it is reoccurring ich that I have got.
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Just to play devils advocate, in the event it is velvet and the previous treatment didn't work, why not try the copper treatment? This covers all the bases.
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