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Old 09-14-2011, 09:54 AM   #31
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I agree nothing positive can be gained from bashing the OP. he has what he has and thats that.

My opinion would be to not add another naso, but thats just an opinion.

The overstocking could have something to do with the naso and their dying or maybe the age of the tank. Tangs get freaked out really easy and maybe that many fish just literally stressed it to death.

Just my 2 cents.
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Old 09-14-2011, 10:02 AM   #32
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Well, I said it once and I said it nicely but got totally ignored like chopped liver.
I better not read in this thread anymore as it just upsets me
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Old 09-14-2011, 10:18 AM   #33
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Yeah I agree, this post just pi**es me off! As recently as yesterday this clown was still making additions to his already overloaded tank - blatantly ignoring advice he was in such "urgent" need of so I'm afraid I don't buy that it will change his mind - someone needed to say what I did to be honest. Now... perhaps not the most constructive advice but if I were the OP I would sell your fish, the tank and equipment and buy one of those nice therapy DVD's with a reef and fish on it - you wont be able to kill them!
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Old 09-14-2011, 10:26 AM   #34
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I think the OP gets the message. Further aggression will just make it worse.


I would consider re homing but again, can;t make the OP do anything he doesnt want to. We can just best advise based on the situation. Which everyone here has done.
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Old 09-14-2011, 10:32 AM   #35
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Carey, such a level head! You should go into peacekeeping!
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Catching up here, please bear with me.

First off I am grateful to any and ALL advice given, so if you feel as though I don't listen, its not that at all. Its just a proven fact you absorb as much information you can on the internet and do what you want with the knowledge you gain. Everyone has an opinion and their own personal experience, which doesn't make it right or wrong just their experience.

That said, I am not getting more fish, I hear you loud and clear on your feelings on the tank being over stocked. Its just a very addicting hobby and when I'm out shopping and find nice fish its hard to say no. I AM however shopping for a 500 gallon tank, so the fish will have more room sooner than later.

Now, to continue with the post, I tested my alkalinity of my RO+DI water last night and 23 drops later the color still didn't change. Is it possible my RO+DI water has ZERO alkalinity? PH of my tap water was 7.4 or so.

Lastly, I removed the yellow tang last night because I added my last fish; powder blue tang and the yellow fish went nuts dagger out, swimming backwards trying to kill my powder tang; very possible thats what attacked my nasos but just not as aggressively.

I am going to take CCAPTs advice tonight and go by my LFS and ask for some lower alkalinity salt. Need to figure out how to lower my alkalinity a little.

Forgive me, I am new. Sorry if I aggravated some of you but its like a kid at the candy store; I dive often and love watching fish. I won't put any more fish in the tank, until I get a bigger tank. I do want to ensure the fish I have are healthy and remain healthy though so looking for any advice. I'll post pictures or whatever you like. I don't know what I don't know.
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LOL. Theres nothing to be gained from hostility or making someone feel bad on this site is my opinion. This is such a great forum I hate to see people bicker or what not.

Thats one thing that sets this site apart from MANY MANY others, is the fact that we don't belabor a point and scare away the person. We want them to learn whats wrong and try to correct it.

I love seeing the happy threads with no dissention. Debate is good for a change but just not the hostility.

I dont wanna BASH you now!! LOL

I would guess the actual answer to this post lies somewhere between too fast stocking and overstocking as well as acclimation.

i think we all agree those factors may be contributing to the dead fish.

And off I go to make peace and harmony elsewhere.....or just do some fish stuff. LOL
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Catching up here, please bear with me.

First off I am grateful to any and ALL advice given, so if you feel as though I don't listen, its not that at all. Its just a proven fact you absorb as much information you can on the internet and do what you want with the knowledge you gain. Everyone has an opinion and their own personal experience, which doesn't make it right or wrong just their experience.

That said, I am not getting more fish, I hear you loud and clear on your feelings on the tank being over stocked. Its just a very addicting hobby and when I'm out shopping and find nice fish its hard to say no. I AM however shopping for a 500 gallon tank, so the fish will have more room sooner than later.

Now, to continue with the post, I tested my alkalinity of my RO+DI water last night and 23 drops later the color still didn't change. Is it possible my RO+DI water has ZERO alkalinity? PH of my tap water was 7.4 or so.

Lastly, I removed the yellow tang last night because I added my last fish; powder blue tang and the yellow fish went nuts dagger out, swimming backwards trying to kill my powder tang; very possible thats what attacked my nasos but just not as aggressively.

I am going to take CCAPTs advice tonight and go by my LFS and ask for some lower alkalinity salt. Need to figure out how to lower my alkalinity a little.

Forgive me, I am new. Sorry if I aggravated some of you but its like a kid at the candy store; I dive often and love watching fish. I won't put any more fish in the tank, until I get a bigger tank. I do want to ensure the fish I have are healthy and remain healthy though so looking for any advice. I'll post pictures or whatever you like. I don't know what I don't know.
Yeah look... about that, I can vocalise like an A*s at times so sorry for any offence caused. i am familiar with the " just one more fish" line and as you will see and hear from most people on here it soon becomes "go on, just one more tank" lol. 500 gallons? Jeez, you either have too much room or too much money I plan to re-locate to australia at some stage and eventually have something of a similar size there. back you advice though- Once you are happy with your params and that your test kit works fine then dont obsess too much with that. I am gonna sound like a broken record but I really don't think your powder blue will survive where your naso didn't, in my experience they are actually quite a hard tang to get it right with and often dont do too well. maybe see if you can re - home the tangs until you are completely setup with your 500g and then SLOWLY re introduce over a period of a few months and only when you are happy that things are steady.

Anyway, good luck and please post pics of your 500g when you get it - it will make an excellent thread subject on here. Once again - sorry for beating my chest earlier!
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Yeah look... about that, I can vocalise like an A*s at times so sorry for any offence caused. i am familiar with the " just one more fish" line and as you will see and hear from most people on here it soon becomes "go on, just one more tank" lol. 500 gallons? Jeez, you either have too much room or too much money I plan to re-locate to australia at some stage and eventually have something of a similar size there. back you advice though- Once you are happy with your params and that your test kit works fine then dont obsess too much with that. I am gonna sound like a broken record but I really don't think your powder blue will survive where your naso didn't, in my experience they are actually quite a hard tang to get it right with and often dont do too well. maybe see if you can re - home the tangs until you are completely setup with your 500g and then SLOWLY re introduce over a period of a few months and only when you are happy that things are steady.

Anyway, good luck and please post pics of your 500g when you get it - it will make an excellent thread subject on here. Once again - sorry for beating my chest earlier!
No hard feelings man I know we're all cooler online. I spent 8 years in the army I can handle some hostility.

At any rate, sorry again if I ticked some people off. I'm not buying more fish; I just want to iron out quirks in my current system and let my fish be healthy until I move them to their new home.

I don't have too much room OR money. I just know what I like, don't smoke or drink so thats how I can afford stuff like this. That, and I bargain shop like crazy. I'm not buying THIS tank but here's an example of whats for sale in my area from time to time:

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Nice, and the no smoking or drinking is what funds my expensive hobby too. 500g would cost a fortune in the UK, how much will that go for in the US?
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