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Old 01-06-2004, 02:33 AM   #1
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Need Help with Pygmy Angel

I just finished QT my fish and treating for ICK. During this process I noticed a small white spot appear on my pygmy angel's tail. The spot has now gone through to the other side creating the start of a small hole and a second one has started right next to it.

I treated the ICK with Organi Cure and it seems to have cleared up. My initial thought is that this is a fungus or secondary bacterial infection. I now have the pygmy in a 10 gal and have been treating with Mardel Maroxy and Melofix since Saturday. I have not noticed any real improvement other than the spots have turned to more of a brownish color than white. After carefully reading the Mardel disease chart I am wondering is I should also use Maracyn-Two(If can it be used simultaneously?).

So far the angel's behavior is fine. It comes out and feeds with no problem. I am just hoping to head off any larger problems. I have had this fish about 4 months. I tried to include a couple of pics, but the file size is to big.

Any thougths or other suggestions will be greatly appreciated. I would hate to lose this fish.

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Old 01-06-2004, 10:15 AM   #2
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Of the three items you have mentioned, the Maracyn II (which is for gram negative bacteria) will have the best effect if a severe fungal problem/secondary infection. Make sure you also keep up with regular water changes and vitamin fortified feedings.

When adding the anti-biotic, premix it in a glass of the QT water and use a few teaspoons to soak the foods in seperately. The med contains added vitamins and every bit will help.

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Old 01-06-2004, 10:21 AM   #3
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Thanks, I will pick some Maracyn II up on my way home today. Am I ok to use this simultaneously with the maraxy and melofix?
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Personally I wouldn't use the Melafix (it rarely works even on mild cases) but it will not adversely react with the Maracyn II. Melafix is 1% melaleuca, basically tea tree oil. The Maroxy won't help with your issue so it's not needed.

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Thanks much. I will keep you posted. As of last night the fish seemed real healthy with the exception of the small hole. hopefully I will be able to report a success story in a couple of weeks.
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I am three days into the myracyn two treatment and the hole has expanded into a notch in the tail. It is still eating and swimming well. I included a pic if anyone has any thoughts
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Looks like you are treating in the main tank and not a QT as suggested. This will seriously hamper your efforts as the substrate and other materials will absorb the meds. What dosage are you using, tank size and are there any resin/carbon products running in the filters?

Are you also soaking the foods in some of the premixed med?

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Steve,

This pic an extreme close up in my 10 gal QT tank. There is no substrate only a bare glass bottom which allows me to see any detris which hits the bottom. The rock you see in the background is only a few pieces of coral rock to provide some cover instead of PVC.

I have followed the dosage on the box: 1 full tablet the first day and then half a tablet each day after for a total of 5 days(3 tablets total). I dissolve the tablets in a separate cup of water and then pour it into the tank. I just did the 4th dosage this morning and will do the final one tomorrow.

I am not using any carbon or resin. For filtration I took my Skilter 250 which is packed with bio balls off my main tank. I disabled the protein skimmer for treatment.

I have not done any water changes yet as it is not suggested on the dosage instructions. I have added small amounts of water which I take form my main tank to dissolve the medication.

I am feeding mysis shrimp and frozen life line which I first soak in the medicated water as suggested. It readily eats when feed. As you can see from the pic the fish does not constantly hide, but comes out when I approach the tank.

I am just wondering if I should be seeing results already? If the actual decay stops should the fin regenerate, and how long should it take?

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I recommend using Maracyn-Two at double strength (like on the first day) EACH and EVERY day for 7 days in saltwater. Unfortunately, you have already exposed the fish to a less than effective dosage (don't follow the directions on the box) so changing the dose now may not be effective. I would remove the M2 with carbon and use Nitrofurazone. Aquatronics packages it as Furacyn. The correct dose is 30mg/gal and you add medication ONLY on the first day. Leave the fish in the medicated water 3 to 5 days depending on how it responds.
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Old 01-09-2004, 11:22 AM   #10
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Terry,

The M2 I am using is the saltwater variation not the Freshwater. Do you still recommend the increased dosage?
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