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Old 10-14-2008, 03:07 PM   #1
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Nemo's sick please help

I noticed last night that our smaller clown is looking sickly, he seemed to be sunk in around his stomach and head. When I fed frozen brine shrimp, he didn't dart after it like the female and gramma. I even tried live baby brine, he seemed like he ate some. I also tried garlic soaked food. He just swims in place and seems to be breathing heavy.
The only thing I've done has been a water change (10 gal total <7 fresh and 3 salt), the salinity(salt content) was 1.026 so I added fresh water to lower it. And raised the ph with baking soda.
This was done on 10/11
Tank prams Before water change After water change
Temp 79 Temp 78
ph 7.8 ph 8.2
nitrates 0 nitrates 0
Nitrites 0 Nitrites 0
Ammonia 0 Ammonia 0
salinity 1.026 salinity 1.023

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Just a guess, but I'd say the sudden change in water parameters might not be making it very happy. Was the water change just before the fish started acting sickly?

You want to match salinity as close as possible when doing a water change. Swinging from 1.026 to 1.023 with a 20% water change was a pretty big jump.
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Is there anything I can do for him? If he dies my son and wife will kill me, after the last time.
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Was the water change just before the fish started acting sickly?
Yes.
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Have you tried soaking the food in garlic? This sometimes causes them to eat. Just need to get him to eat soon.
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Is there anything I can do for him? If he dies my son and wife will kill me, after the last time.
At this point, just keeping the water parameters stable is probably the only think you can do. Also as melosu commented, getting him to eat is probably top priority. How about some mysis shrimp or cyclopeeze, instead of the brine? I haven't seen anything refuse mysis shrimp in my tank, plus it's waaaaaay more nutritional. From what I've read, brine shrimp as the sole source of food just doesn't end up being too nutritional.
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I'm curious as to what you mean by live baby brine, as in nauplii or?
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I'm curious as to what you mean by live baby brine, as in nauplii or?
Fresh hatched brine shrinp.
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This might be too small for them to take much interest in. Another option is enriching live adult brine shrimp with selco and/or spirulina. I haven't seen a fish yet resist it and since it would be enriched, more nutritional as well
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Nemo's still not eating. I've tried Melosua's suggestion of soaking the food in garlic, Kurt_Nelson's suggestion of feeding mysis shrimp or cyclopeeze, instead of the brine. LFS only had frozen. And Innovator's suggestion of enriching the food with selco and/or spirulina, I couldn't do because they didn't carry it. Any other suggestions on what else to try?
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