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Old 03-12-2013, 12:22 AM   #1
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One Spot Foxface with more than one spot!

75 Gallon Tank with 90 lbs LR 100lbs sand bed and 20 Gallon sump with Chaeto was cycled in June/July 2012. One-Spot Foxface added the end of August. Tank mates - 2 B&W Ocellaris - 2 Cleaner Shrimp - 1 Blue Spotted Watchman Goby - various snails & coral. Emerald Crab in Sump. Last addition was zoa, monti & scripps acro added on 2/26/13. Water paramaters are all good - I have done weekly 8 gallon water changes since cycle. Only problem has been low ph - around 7.8. On Saturday morning I did my weekly PWC and added 2 teaspoons of Kent Superbuffer-dKH (disolved in a glass of RO water and added to DT) to try to raise PH. I was gone all day and when I returned later that night I noticed my Foxface had about 5 spots on one side. The spots were almost stringy looking and larger (did not look like salt sprinkles). The spots on the tail are smaller like salt. Attached picture was taken about 48 hrs after discovery. LFS believes it is not ICH from pictures. I did just add a Scripps Acro last week and it is on the edge of a rock - my thought is that he got against that or ?? Looking at images on ICH - the spots on my Foxface are much larger. I am on day three of adding Maracyn Plus Antibacteria from LFS recomendation. He is acting normal and no other symptoms on any other fish. My question is from everything I can find ICH is like grains of salt. These are much bigger - like 10 grains of salt (except the ones on the tail). I am back and forth thinking it is ICH but I have seen ICH on other fish and it does not look like ICH. Any suggestions? Could it be something else? It is only on one side.
Temp 79 - PH 7.8 - CA 380 - KH 7 - Phosphate & Nitrate 0 - SG 1.024
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Old 03-12-2013, 06:48 PM   #2
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Your Cal, Alk, PH. Are low, have you tested magnesium. bigger WC or start dosing. Don't use buffers, they raise the ph for a sort time and your left with a high alk, IMO but your still low, it's not bad 8-10 dkh is best some go higher.
Do you feed red green and brown algae?
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Lymphocystis maybe?
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:33 PM   #4
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Liberty:
The readings were low - I took them just prior to my last water change. That was one reason why I posted them as I was surprised they were low. Normally it holds around 420 on CA and 8 on KH. I do not test mag - I will start doing 5 day WC's and get them back in line again. I do feed both red & brown algae every two or three days (not daily). I have always struggled with lower PH readings and LFS suggested the buffer. This is the 2nd time that I have tried the buffer - I struggled with a wave of algae a couple months ago and blamed it on the buffer. Saturday was the first day I tried it again. I will take your advise and stop - Thanks!

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Thanks for the suggestion - I will do some research.
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Research magnesium it has a lot to do with cal and alk. A lot of the salt mix don't have the proper amout.
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Research magnesium it has a lot to do with cal and alk. A lot of the salt mix don't have the proper amout.
I will look into Magnesium. I have been using IO Reef Crystals for about 8 months and only the last couple months started getting some of the easy or beginner corals. I have been trying to go slow as there is so much to learn - this last scare with whatever it is . . . I noticed you have a Foxface - Nice tank BTW! Any suggestions on salt? Do you dose?
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Lymphocystis maybe?
Thanks for the tip - I did google and it does look like Lymphocystis. It also looks like ICH if it comes in huge looking salt pellets - not small dots. I guess I am leaning to ICH because that seems to be the most common problem. I need to research both some more and time will tell. None of the other fish have any symptoms yet - I really don't want it to be ICH. I thought ICH had to be introduced by another fish - I don't think my Foxface is under stress from anything in my tank. The cleaner shrip, clowns and goby are fine (so far). My tests were low (I attributed it to the addition of the Monti, Zoa Rock and Scripps just added) but with more frequent water changes and replacing my filter socks every four days we will see if it improves. The Foxface seems to be better since I started the Maracyn Plus. I appreciate your help.
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Doesn't look like ich to me fwiw...
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I will look into Magnesium. I have been using IO Reef Crystals for about 8 months and only the last couple months started getting some of the easy or beginner corals. I have been trying to go slow as there is so much to learn - this last scare with whatever it is . . . I noticed you have a Foxface - Nice tank BTW! Any suggestions on salt? Do you dose?
I use the same salt lol, but at 1.024 it's only 1200 if the tanks already low not going to do much. You could get away with only add some mag to the WC to get it to 1350.
Yes I dose, reef keeper controller does it all light timer moon lights cycle, temp controller ATO And a Multi timer for the dosing Alk at 73 mil daily cal 78 mil. all SPS trying
Btw if the 75 is your first tank nice job I like it
This is my third tank and the last.
I did the same but only 5gal a week lol and ro from the LFS. Took a water sample and was sold buffer and cal riser. My tank turned very cloudy. So 4 yrs latter I got a big tank the fish are getting huge foxy 7in. Oh and they like there algae sheets, even the formula 2 pellets with garlic. Keep him fat a happy till he gets over it. He the first fish I got, I had algae
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It does not look at all like Ich. Seems much too large. I'm leaning towards Lympho.
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