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Old 09-09-2009, 10:13 PM   #11
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yea i dont think your tank has cycled yet imo it does not appear it has to me
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Old 09-09-2009, 10:37 PM   #12
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Just took another ammonia reading.

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This is the same shade of green I've gotten for every other measurement, including that for new SW that's never had any fish in it.
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Old 09-09-2009, 11:41 PM   #13
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Were the fish acting at all sickly prior to death? What was the condition of the corpses?
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Old 09-10-2009, 12:51 AM   #14
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how many fish are alive now? and wat type?
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ok i read you have damsels and chromis left is that correct? if so let me change my last question wat type of fish was it you had? damsels are amoung a tough fish as i belive the chromis are as well they can survive even the most hardest conditions of all alot of people use them to start there tank off because they are cheap and hardy its one way to get your tank to cylce other than the fishless cycle using a dead shrimp which creates a amonia source to start the cycle......
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Just took another ammonia reading.

http://www.adamhorton.com/files/ammonia.jpg

This is the same shade of green I've gotten for every other measurement, including that for new SW that's never had any fish in it.
You're still using tap water, correct? Have you tested your tap water for ammonia before adding the salt mix? If you're still using tap, I'd point the finger there. Also, on your website, you mentioned "cloudy water"... that normally implies a cycle - the "cloud" is a bacterial bloom. That too would imply ammonia present.


I know that doesn't help you with the question of what to do with the remaining fish, but just thought I'd comment about the ammonia.
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Old 09-10-2009, 06:52 AM   #17
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I use tap water, and I get the same measurement of ammonia for that as what's in the picture.

The fish the have died already are a diamond watchman goby, a maroon clown, a blenny, and several other damsels. The goby actually jumped out of the tank, and he wasn't acting weird or sick at all. The clown acted sick and just disappeared (I assumed he got eaten, since I couldn't find his body anywhere. Same with the blenny. The damsels that died act sick for a while and some of them I'm able to find, but some of them disappear. There doesn't appear to be anything wrong with the bodies when I do find them.

I know damsels and chromis are tough fish, which explains why they've lasted this long, but all of these guys have lasted through the small ammonia spike I got when I "cycled" the tank, which is higher than what I'm reading now. Why would all of my fish, including the damsels, be dying now if they were fine before?

Anyways, unless we can come up with something better, I'll probably take the fish back to the LFS tonight after work. What should I do with the LR? When I start the tank up again from scratch, I'll probably cycle it with LR, so I guess I should try to keep this stuff wet?

I did notice less cloudiness when I turned the lights off for a while which made me think it was algae, but ammonia makes sense for that. Except for the fact that my ammonia tests show no ammonia.
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Based on your picture, the statement 'Ammonia: 0' from your initial post is not accurate. Though not 'that' high.

If I remember correctly, at the time you were setting up the tank you had far less fish than what have died right? I don't remember you starting w/ 17 fish

8 days for marco's pre-cured base rock sounds about right. Even with .25 your tank and it's inhabitants should be able to absorb that. No meds or cleaning of the filters, cleaning the sump, additives or anything?
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If the fish were exposed to higher ammonia concentration for little bit of time their gills could have permanently damaged causing them not to work properly.
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Here's a complete list of all fish added to the tank:

July 5: 1 clown, 7 damsels
July 19: 1 diamond watchman goby
July 24: 5 damsels, one died after a day or two
August 9: 1 damsel, 1 pseudochromis
August 16: 3 damsels, 1 blenny, 1 cardinal
August 18: the cardinal died, and two damsels died
August 21: 1 cardinal, died a couple days later
Sept. 1: goby jumps out, a bunch of other fish start dying/going missing

I checked the tank this morning, I'm only able to find 5 damsels.

The only things I've ever put in the tank as far as water and additives go are water conditioner, Instant Ocean, and tap water. No additives or anything like that.

I think twice over 2+ months I've rinsed out the mechanical filters on the HOB part of the filter but other than that, no filter cleaning either.
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