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Old 02-08-2005, 12:33 PM   #1
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Quarantine Tank

Being new to this im full of all these questions I've searched throughout the forums and haven't found an answer to this quesiton.

I am going to invest in a QT. I've been told several different ways to maintain the tank, some say store dry when not in use, some say keep a couple damsels let it run.

My questions:

If you store dry what do you do with the filter?
I figured people put the filter in their display tank to keep bacteria grown up in it, but as someone else pointed out the medication get cought up in it and can kill stuff in your display tank.

If you store it dry what do you do for water?
I understand that if you plan on purchasing a fish you should set it up 24-48hrs in advance to get it flowing, but if you have an emergency in the display tank and need to move a fish or two over right away what do you do?
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Old 02-08-2005, 12:48 PM   #2
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Great questions. I'll tag along here for the answers, too. Right now I have no fish whatsoever, but I have a QT tank running anyway.

If I were to store it dry, I think I would use my main tank water to fill it so that I could move fish there quickly in an emergency, and then use the opportunity to do a water change in the main tank.

I'd be afraid to keep damsels in there. Wouldn't they harass any newly arrived QT fish?
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SG 1.024, temp 79.5, pH 8.4

Livestock I added:

1 skunk cleaner. 12 hermits: red, scarlet, blue. 15 or so assorted snails. Discosomas, Ricordia, Rhodactis mushroom corals, chaetomorpha (sump), 1 feather duster, Montipora digitata, Montipora capricornis, Montipora hispids. assorted zoos, Xenia, Kenya tree coral, green Sinularia, green star polyps, branching hammer coral, bubble coral, Devil's hand leather. Yellow chromis, purple firefish.

Hitchhikers: the usual suspects :crabs, bristles, urchin, mantis shrimp (now in exile in mantis tank)

List of possible/likely newcomers:

Feather duster. PJ cardinal, Bangghai cardinal, Firefish goby, Clownfish, Neon goby, Yellow watchman goby, Orchid dottyback. Various corals.
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Old 02-08-2005, 12:51 PM   #3
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Wouldn't they harass any newly arrived QT fish?
That's what I thought too. And what happens when you have a couple fish to QT or a larger fish to QT, then you create stress having the damsels in there.

Im leaning towards the storing dry since my wife would SHOOT me if I put another tank out.
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Old 02-08-2005, 01:00 PM   #4
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One thing i did read on here a while ago was someone had taken some sand out of their display tank and put it into a nylon stocking and put the stocking in their QT.

Any input on that?
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Old 02-08-2005, 01:04 PM   #5
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Right now my main tank is completing the cycle, and I have a bag of ceramic bio disks in the sump. I'll move these disks to the QT to act as the biological filter after my live rock sets up in the main tank. Since the cycle needs to be maintained using an ammonia source, I'll put my first fish in the QT while my main tank with live rock and cleanup critters goes through its inevitable growing pains (diatoms, whatever!!). Then - I guess a month later, I'll add the fish, get a new fish for QT, etc., for the next few months.

At least, that's my plan. In my sump will be chaetomorpha and pods and a small DSB.
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30 gal standard 55 lbs LR, 60 lb live sand, 10 gal sump/refugium. Urchin skimmer, mag7 pump, 3 x 96W PC combination 10,000K/actinic bulb, 2 blue LED moonlights
SG 1.024, temp 79.5, pH 8.4

Livestock I added:

1 skunk cleaner. 12 hermits: red, scarlet, blue. 15 or so assorted snails. Discosomas, Ricordia, Rhodactis mushroom corals, chaetomorpha (sump), 1 feather duster, Montipora digitata, Montipora capricornis, Montipora hispids. assorted zoos, Xenia, Kenya tree coral, green Sinularia, green star polyps, branching hammer coral, bubble coral, Devil's hand leather. Yellow chromis, purple firefish.

Hitchhikers: the usual suspects :crabs, bristles, urchin, mantis shrimp (now in exile in mantis tank)

List of possible/likely newcomers:

Feather duster. PJ cardinal, Bangghai cardinal, Firefish goby, Clownfish, Neon goby, Yellow watchman goby, Orchid dottyback. Various corals.
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IMO I'd approach this according to the level you're currently stocked in your main tank. Over the 11 months I was adding fish to the main, my QT stayed up and running. At no time did I not have a fish in there for more than a week and half. As QTd fish transferred to the main - after 3 or 4 weeks, I added the next fish to the QT. As I'm fully stocked now, I tore down the QT. Of course if I get sick fish in the main, I'll be asking for help on how to set it up real qwik.

Not sure if that approach helps for your situation, but it you wann keep fish in there, I'd opt for blue/green chromis. Aggression for new QT inhabitants won't be an issue then. Might leave room in the main for them last when finished stocking.

And then, we'll both be looking for answers on setting up a QT real fast if fish get sick.
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Austinsdad brings up a good point. Leaving it up and running while im stocking the tank Since I only have two fish in my main i obviously have a ways to go to get it stocked up

So here's an idea. I have a 15g Eclipse (one with the filtration built into the hood) that currently houses fresh water. Im thinking of turning it into a small SW tank, i think the proper term is NANO? That could be my QT tank while I stock, then turn it into a nano when im done stocking and invest in another tank for a QT tank.
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Austin's dad is totally correct, For the first 6-8 months, you will probably not drain your tank. After that tear it down. You could keep it going, but I found that it is to difficult to keep an empty tank running and devoting any time at all. (top-offs and water changes) If you are going to go a couple of weeks between fish keep it running and feed as though there are fish in the tank. THis gives the bacteria the ammonia they need to stay alive. I did have to break down the QT to kill a parasite that would not go away during that first 6 months!

I personally would not use any tank that you are planning on using later as a QT. You are going to be introducing meds to it and you do not want any residual in the tank if you are going to stock it as a nano. You can get a 10 gallon glass tank at petco for ten bucks. (even cheaper used) I use a Whisper E filter, small heater and an air pump and stone.

I keep the filter floss in my sump (and originally in the media bins when I only had a HOB) so if you need it quick your filter media already has the bacteria you desire. After I use the floss, I throw it out and always keep a new spare in the sump. If you use an HOB now, sometimes, the same filter cartridge will fit in smaller filter for your QT. Beware of BIo-wheels however as the bateria will die when dried up and cause a MAJOR ammonia spike. If you have a penguin HOB just remove the biowheels.

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Emergency setup should be easy, though, right? Just use water from your main tank. Any fish you need to put into the QT can go immediately without the need for acclimation it's the same water it was in already. Just need to watch the heater temp at first in the QT, I guess.
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SG 1.024, temp 79.5, pH 8.4

Livestock I added:

1 skunk cleaner. 12 hermits: red, scarlet, blue. 15 or so assorted snails. Discosomas, Ricordia, Rhodactis mushroom corals, chaetomorpha (sump), 1 feather duster, Montipora digitata, Montipora capricornis, Montipora hispids. assorted zoos, Xenia, Kenya tree coral, green Sinularia, green star polyps, branching hammer coral, bubble coral, Devil's hand leather. Yellow chromis, purple firefish.

Hitchhikers: the usual suspects :crabs, bristles, urchin, mantis shrimp (now in exile in mantis tank)

List of possible/likely newcomers:

Feather duster. PJ cardinal, Bangghai cardinal, Firefish goby, Clownfish, Neon goby, Yellow watchman goby, Orchid dottyback. Various corals.
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You can keep it up and running without fish. All you need to do is "feed" the tank a couple times a week. Just put a little food in to feed the biological filter.
There really isn't a need to keep one up and running unless you are going to be placing a number of fish in the tank. You can put it away until needed.
Just keep a small sponge in the sump or filter canister of your main , it will seed with bacteria be ready when needed.
Then it is just a fast setup..use water from your main along with this seeded sponge and you have a ready made qt.
IMO don't stress too much over having a cycled qt tank. Water quality can be maintained through aggressive water changes until the biofilter adjusts.

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NANO? That could be my QT tank while I stock, then turn it into a nano when im done stocking and invest in another tank for a QT tank.
That would be fine unless you used copper in it.
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