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Old 10-02-2004, 09:30 PM   #1
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Rapidly Dying Clown!!! Help!!!

I have a f.p. clown that has been really ill lately. He is swimming upside down (when he swims at all), he has lost alot of his color, he is not eating, and he is hiding out under a rock. I have four other inhabitants of the tank, another f.p. clown, a dwarf rusty angelfish, a cardinal, and a scooter. The tank is about 30 gallons with a dual bio-wheel (not sure what else it is called). There is about 15-20 lbs of live rock in the tank as well. All levels have tested to be wonderful and the other fish are doing great. However, I did have a camel shrimp die earlier today. The f.p. clown has no spots or lesions or any such markings, just lost his color and looks like he's ready to lay down and die. I need help fast, can't lose my nemo!!
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Old 10-02-2004, 09:40 PM   #2
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OK, how long have you had him? Is he breathing rapidly? Had he been eating? What specifically are your water parameters, ammonia, nitrite? PH? Is anyone picking on him?
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Old 10-02-2004, 09:56 PM   #3
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I have had him about two weeks, he is breathing rapidly, he hasn't been eating...but he had been up until today. No other fish has been picking on him, but he did seem a little scared of the rusty dwarf angel when i first put them in. I'm not sure what my water parameters are specifically, the pet store that I bought all of the supplies at tested my water today when I got back from army drill. They said everything was fine but my salinity was a little high. Any suggestions, I have shut the light off and gave him a little peace...what should I do?
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High specific gravity? Need to find out how high. If he hasn't been eating for the first 2 weeks, that could be a sign of a lot of things.
Do you own a qt tank?
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Old 10-02-2004, 10:04 PM   #5
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he had been eating for the first two weeks...he just stopped eating either today or last night. The salinity was around 1.025, just a tad too high, I already adjusted it to around 1.023. he has been eating though...just isn't now. I do not own a qt tank, but I'm sure, after this, it will be my next investment.
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Old 10-02-2004, 10:11 PM   #6
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he is now on the grate leading to the bio-wheels...but still breathing rapidly.
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Old 10-03-2004, 03:25 PM   #7
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Sounds like the fish is stressed. How did you acclimate the fish and exactly what are your water parameters including pH? You really need to know the actual numbers to help determine a cause.

Leaving the light off for a bit will help in reducing stress if that is the cause. Be sure you aslo keep a close eye on the interaction of the angel and the other clown. It could also be the other clown is part of the issue.

FWIW, an SG of 1.025 is ideal, not high.

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Old 10-03-2004, 08:18 PM   #8
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thanks for all of your advice guys. Nemo died last night at 9 pm. I think my next investment is going to be a qt and a water testing kit. I sure would hate for anything like this to happen again.
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Sorry for your loss...

Keep a close eye on the other fish now in case it was parasite related. If you are lucky it was not and you dodge a bullet. This is why we preach QT

MOre likely I would think the problem is water quality related as the shrimp died also. No offense, but you don't even have a test kit on hand. I say get one so you can check parameters for sure. If you want to be successful at this, don't rely on lfs for readings. I have actually seen PETCO use those rediculous test strips, very inaccurate. They may also be more forgiving to the results and just say "good". I got a sw test kit for just over $20 at lfs; don't forget a hydrometer as well.
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No fish tank owner should ever be withouth a test kit. Good luck. Chances are your clown had something wrong with him before he came home with you.
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