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Old 01-25-2013, 02:49 PM   #1
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Really need help. My trumpet is in bad shape.

Hey guys. I really need some help with this guy. He was fine up until about 3 days ago when he wouldn't inflate. Now he just looks terrible. My water levels all test fine (nitrate,trite, ammo). My salinity is 1.025. Temp is 78. I've had him since around September, and I feed him mysis every now and again. 10 gallon tank. 1 yellow tail damsel, a couple hermits, an emerald crab and a few snails are in the tank.

I recently added purigen and the only new additions to the tank were a green mushroom, frogspawn, yellow ricordia and zoas. All the new coral + all the old coral is doing well. Just this trumpet looks like it's splitting open or something all over itself. Please help, I don't know what to do.

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And just a few days ago it looked like this:

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Do a water change. I don't know what's effecting the coral, but That's what I would do. Why did you add the purigen?
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Not quite sure what the problem would be but in my experience for some reason I just can't keep trumpets or candy canes in my tank. They will stay alive but won't grow. I actually know of quite a few different tanks that for some reason or another just can't keep certain corals.
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Do a water change. I don't know what's effecting the coral, but That's what I would do. Why did you add the purigen?
I added it because I was having some hair algae growth. In the last few weeks I got the damsel and I was getting some hair algae growth since then. Probably due to extra nitrates from feeding him and his waste. Should I do a 50% pwc and take out the purigen?
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I don't use it. I read that it's inert though, and if that's the case, it shouldn't make a difference. This is a hobby though, and an unregulated one at that. Not much in the way of consequences for a mistake that kills someone's corals.
If you remove it and it bounces back, you know what's up.

A water change is never a bad thing
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I don't use it. I read that it's inert though, and if that's the case, it shouldn't make a difference. This is a hobby though, and an unregulated one at that. Not much in the way of consequences for a mistake that kills someone's corals.
If you remove it and it bounces back, you know what's up.

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Very true. I guess all I can really do is the water change and hope he doesn't die.
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Well, I did a 25% pwc. I noticed there is a "film" on top of the water. I didnt refill my tank as high as it was in case this has something to do with gas exchange. Maybe the filter overflows weren't creating enough surface agitation? Then I fed my fish and made sure I put in extra food for the hermits, just in case they were a little hungry and thought they'd see what trumpet coral tastes like. I really don't think that's the issue but I don't see what the harm would be by feeding them. They went straight for the food so I know it got eaten.

On my thread of my tank it was suggested to maybe do a coral dip. Do you think that would help or stress it out more?
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If there was a film on the water, then I'd get some more rippling on the surface.

I would say that the issue is stemming more from the "put in extra food for the hermits", they are a clean up crew and you shouldn't need to feed them. This can cause unwanted buildup and nitrate issues. You did point out you were having hair algae problems, so this might be the boat you are in, nitrates that you can't test for because the algae is consuming it.

Ironically, this is also a coral that I had trouble with for some time. Still do infact. I have a blue trumpet that was bleaching and dying for months until I moved it into the new tank and it decided that it was happy and began to thrive. Right next to it was a candy cane that bleachd out and died.

I look at the picture of what it is doing now and I see more of what mine does, for days tentacles out and inflated and then the next day no tentacles and withdrawn. It then comes back. I agree with Doug about the water change should help. Did you rinse your Purigen before putting it into your system btw? It is inert like Doug said, but it is in the instructions to rinse it before adding it to the system, making me think that there is something that could be on it from production that can be rinsed off.
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If there was a film on the water, then I'd get some more rippling on the surface.

I would say that the issue is stemming more from the "put in extra food for the hermits", they are a clean up crew and you shouldn't need to feed them. This can cause unwanted buildup and nitrate issues. You did point out you were having hair algae problems, so this might be the boat you are in, nitrates that you can't test for because the algae is consuming it.

Ironically, this is also a coral that I had trouble with for some time. Still do infact. I have a blue trumpet that was bleaching and dying for months until I moved it into the new tank and it decided that it was happy and began to thrive. Right next to it was a candy cane that bleachd out and died.

I look at the picture of what it is doing now and I see more of what mine does, for days tentacles out and inflated and then the next day no tentacles and withdrawn. It then comes back. I agree with Doug about the water change should help. Did you rinse your Purigen before putting it into your system btw? It is inert like Doug said, but it is in the instructions to rinse it before adding it to the system, making me think that there is something that could be on it from production that can be rinsed off.
I did rinse it very well. It's taken care of then little bit of hair algae and also the random spot of cyano that would pop up.

About the feeding, the trumpet looks like something picked at or poked at the flesh, which made me think maybe the hermits? I know I was over feeding when I first got Blue because I was afraid he'd starve and die, but over the last week I've only fed him a few pellets or mysis once a day. Before I had a fish I'd drop in 2-3 pellets once a week to make sure the clean up crew wasn't starving to death. Anyway, now that I know or sure the hermits aren't hungry I don't have to wonder if it is them picking on the coral. I've been trying to research this problem but can't find anything that helps other than that trumpet coral are very resilient and usually recover from what is ailing them. Should I try to feed the trumpet after lights out if he extends his tentacles?
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That looked peculiar to me to. I doubt a hermit would eat a healthy coral though. I've never had trouble with these corals until I got LEDs. I noticed the neon green ones had a harder time than the white ones with the powerful lighting.
yes. Definitely feed if it accepts it.
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