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Old 07-15-2004, 09:06 AM   #1
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recovering from ich

I just lost 3 fish in my tank to ich the fourth fish has been in the tank for the past 11 days and shows no signs of ich. What should i do before i add anymore fish to the tank. Is there a certain period of time i should wait to make sure the ich disappears. There is still one fish left in the tank. I am confused what i should do next. I know that i have to start a QT tank before adding any new fish. Any help appreciated.

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Old 07-15-2004, 10:31 AM   #2
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If there is a fish host around the parasite will not die off. You need to QT the remaining fish and leave your main tank fallow(fishless) for 6 weeks. During that time if the fish develops symptoms you can treat accordingly in the QT.
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Old 07-15-2004, 10:55 AM   #3
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I agree with the QT. but from what I found out from my reef club is two things.

1. If the fish is truly heathly they will heal them selves from ICH. I know many people in my club that have had ICH in there tank and have completely become immune to it.

2. (AndI know I am going to get flammed for this) There is no way to keep ICH out of your systems. Unless you QT everything Corals,fish,LR,LS etc...

If you pick up a coral and they run on the same system with fish. You have a chance to get ICH. Same with LR and LS.
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Old 07-15-2004, 11:22 AM   #4
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1. If the fish is truly heathly they will heal them selves from ICH. I know many people in my club that have had ICH in there tank and have completely become immune to it.
Gotta disagree with that. Aquired immunity is short lived and typically does not last much longer than 6ish months. Even if you do not see evidence of the parasite, it will still be one the fish. Any additions or interuptions of the tank will as a rule bring about a full blown infestation. As long as the fish are in the tank, C. irritans will survive!

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2. (AndI know I am going to get flammed for this) There is no way to keep ICH out of your systems. Unless you QT everything Corals,fish,LR,LS etc...

If you pick up a coral and they run on the same system with fish. You have a chance to get ICH. Same with LR and LS.
No flame intended but keeping any parasite infestation out of the main display is completely fesible and 100% effective when QT'ing all fish. I do agree that when purchasing corals and such with hard surfaces there is the small possibility or introducing a parasite as well. Personally that is why I always recommend buying mobile and sessile inverts alike from fishless systems. No fish, no ich

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How can i cycle a qt tank to house the last fish. If i use water from the main tank
won't i be introducing ich into the qt tank. I plan on purchasing a 10 gallon tank as a qt tank what other equipment should it have?
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1. If the fish is truly heathly they will heal them selves from ICH. I know many people in my club that have had ICH in there tank and have completely become immune to it.
Gotta disagree with that. Aquired immunity is short lived and typically does not last much longer than 6ish months. Even if you do not see evidence of the parasite, it will still be one the fish. Any additions or interuptions of the tank will as a rule bring about a full blown infestation. As long as the fish are in the tank, C. irritans will survive!

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2. (AndI know I am going to get flammed for this) There is no way to keep ICH out of your systems. Unless you QT everything Corals,fish,LR,LS etc...

If you pick up a coral and they run on the same system with fish. You have a chance to get ICH. Same with LR and LS.
No flame intended but keeping any parasite infestation out of the main display is completely fesible and 100% effective when QT'ing all fish. I do agree that when purchasing corals and such with hard surfaces there is the small possibility or introducing a parasite as well. Personally that is why I always recommend buying mobile and sessile inverts alike from fishless systems. No fish, no ich

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Agreed but the problem that we have in my area is frag swaps.. We trade different frags, there is a pretty good chance that you will get ICH. And I am not disagreeing with QT at all. I think it is important to monitor your fish and QT them if they are sick, but some times the cure can be worse then the illness. A lot of people kill their fish with kindness.
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How can i cycle a qt tank to house the last fish. If i use water from the main tank
won't i be introducing ich into the qt tank. I plan on purchasing a 10 gallon tank as a qt tank what other equipment should it have?
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The ICH will die if you are treating if the Hypo or copper..
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How can i cycle a qt tank to house the last fish. If i use water from the main tank
won't i be introducing ich into the qt tank. I plan on purchasing a 10 gallon tank as a qt tank what other equipment should it have?
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It's not just the infested fish but all fish need to be QT'd and treated if the tank has a parasite present. If the other fish are left in the display, any trophonts that have released from the fish to encyst will multiply and eventually infest the remaining fish. Only by removing all the fish and leaving it fallow for upto 6 weeks can you ensure the parasite will be eradicated. Before you go that route I'd be sure of what you are treating though.

Setting up a QT is quite easy and using the water from the main tank is no concern for the initial fill only. If the fish already has the parasite, using the same water the fish came from will be of no concern. You will need some type of treatment (hyposalinity or copper) so anything transfered with it will die as well. Just be sure any future water changes for the QT are done with well aged newly prepared SW only.

Here's an article on quarantine set up the should help.

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I am setting up a 10 gallon qt to treat my remaing fish and leave the display tank fishless for 6 weeks. If i run the sponge for the filter in my qt in my current display tank for a week or so will this be enough to cycle the qt tank when i put the sponge in the qt filter?

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If i run the sponge for the filter in my qt in my current display tank for a week or so will this be enough to cycle the qt tank when i put the sponge in the qt filter?
It won't actually cycle the QT but will transfer a decent amount of bacteria giving it a good headstart and lessening the severity of a regular cycle. That said though unless you treat with hyposalinity or Copper other than ionic, the filter seeding would be pointless.

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