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Old 07-05-2004, 07:01 PM   #11
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The only thing I add, besides changing the water weekly, is SeaChems's Marine Trace Elements every other week.
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The only thing I add, besides changing the water weekly, is SeaChems's Marine Trace Elements every other week.
Could be a possible suspect then if you do regular water changes. Might be one of the minor trace elements have become too high and are adversley affecting the shrimp. That's a complete shot in the dark though.

Personally I would never recommend any additions of these kind. They really aren't necessary.

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As the trace elements in the water get used and only replacing 10% of the water weekly I would think that the trace elements would be running at a deficit and would eventually be used up. So Steve, you think some of the trace levels may have gotten high enough to become toxic to the shrimp? What about the Alk and Ca?
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I would think that the trace elements would be running at a deficit and would eventually be used up.
You have no way of accurately determining that which is the biggest reason not to use them or at the least use sparingly. Think of it this way, if you look at the ingredient list on the bottle, try to determine which animals are using them and in what quantity.

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I asked you that earlier but you did not post the numbers. Both can have an affect on inverts if badly askew.

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They are not something that I currently measure. What should the levels be?
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There is no real set level that should be strived for other than NSW levels. Typically an alk of 1.5-3 mEq/l (as high as 4) and a Ca level of 380-420 ppm (or as high as 450ppm) with a Mg level ((usually 1200-1350 ppm) of 3x that of the Ca. The most important part is to ensure they are all >>balanced<< within a certain range. Don't kill yourself looking for exact numbers though.

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