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Old 01-03-2005, 02:37 AM   #11
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Being that the carpet has been in there two weeks and your algaecide product has as well, I might be inclined to look on that as at least a partial suspect. Even though considered an organic product, any item claiming to be safe should be treated with greatest sceptiscism.

Aside from that your water specs are quite poor for sensitive inverts as these and most likely the root cause. You should really do several large water changes over the next few days with well aged (24 hrs) and aerated SW, heated to the same as the tank. That should help with the low alk/pH as well as lowering the nitrite and nitrates. I would seriously suggest removing the Algone as well. It will not reduce PO4 either, it simpley binds nitrates and supposedly lowers the available nutrient in the system. Judging by the time it's been there and your nitrate levels, it's not working.

Higher nitrate (above 10ppm) is quite bad for more sensitive inverts but the presence of the nitrite is even worse. NO2 should be undetectable at all times. How often do you feed the fish and how much/what?

The anemone attaching and the tighter mouth is a good sign though. Do not try to feed it any further either. It's not necessary given the lighting you have unless it ends up catching nothing with general fish feedings. Even then I would urge against it.

If the Emporer HOB filter is the main means of filtration you need to be sure the media is cleaned quite often to prevent organic build up. Is this mainly an FO system with some inverts or does it have LR?

You will also need to make a serious choice in what you will be keeping in the tank. The Picasso will begin to look upon the anemone as lunch sooner or later. They are no where near inverts safe at all.

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I usually feed twice a day, and as much as they consume, its hard to tell how much the picasso consumes as he is always hungry. He hasn't bothered any of the inverts yet in the tank, the only thing he really likes to eat is turbo snails he masacred about 25 of them i bought to control the algae growth. The filter on the Emperor I started to clean at least once a week due to not cleaning it for the first 4 months the tank was up, it was pretty filthy so i decided to incorperate that into my water changes. I have 3 fish in the tank now, and the rest are inverts with about 65lbs of cured live rock. I will just do the water changes you suggest until the nitrate levels read zero and monitor them on a daily basis there out until i get a feel for how long it takes them to trace again. Let me know if you can think of anything else and thanks again for your help.
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10 kudos to Steve for jumping in and helping out.

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I would cut back on the feeding a bit, twice a day is what's causing your water quality issues. Once a day should be fine for the trigger although it may start nipping at additional inverts, not too sure there.

Be sure that once the water specs are back "inline", you continue to do at least weekly water changes to keep them lowered. Messy carnivors are quite taxing on the biofiltration.

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Well today the situation has worsened. Not only is the anenome being affected but now the xenia, toadstool, green tip mushrooms are all experciencing some sort of posioning. I have had my tank for over a year now and haven't seen anything like this. The only thing that is different is the ALGONE. It has been removed from the tank from earlier suggestions in this post. I have decreased all the nitrate, nitrite readings to zero or just a very small trace. I'm afraid i'm about to lose everything but my fish.
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How much water did you change each time and did you allow the newly mixed water to properly mix and aerate for 24 hrs before use? Improperly dissolved salts can be quite harmful. Also are you always using the same brand of salt? Any phosphate removal items?

The Algone could still be affecting your tank, don't know for sure. I would suggest using some carbon in the Emporer swapped out a few times. That will help with what you can't see.

What is your water source and have you had it tested for copper?

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All water changes come from the LFS, or from Wal-Mart, bottled water, not spring or anything added kind but the reverse osmosis and/or distilled water. I never use tap or contaminate with tap water, i know some people that do but i worry too much about copper posioning. I have added salt to the tank to keep the salinity up. I have carbon in the Emperor now, i will change it out to make sure, but today the tank looks very sick. I'm afraid i am about to lose everything. I am calling out my LFS tomorrow and they have on-site service for 45/mo and I will let them fix my water and whatever suggestions they may have i will proceed with. My yahoo screen name is pcbboy32407. I should be around all weekend if anyone wants to im me and talk real time about this. Any help is appreciated. Not only from me but my tank critters too!
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Did you add the salt directly to the tank or did you add it to make up water? The best way to adjust salinity is through water changes. Make the new batch of water either higher or lower than the tank, depending on your goal. Do this over several days.
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