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Old 07-10-2009, 11:30 PM   #11
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the white spots are more like lumps (bumps or whitish pimples) rather than specs. I assume your getting at Ich here, no? It looks more like some kind of fungus. Dewormed, how? He wont eat anything I give him. He looks at it, then goes about his merry way...(Others suggested he was eating copepods that he was finding)

To me, I feel I was cheated by the LFS. What do you think? I had two clowns to start. They were the first and only fish in this tank (in at the same time). The fist clown just died the next day. He was breathing really heavy after going into the tank. No visible disease on him. I guess he didnt like the acclimation. The second swam around exploring instead of hiding. All day he looks to be catching the copepods that I see swimming around.

If he was worms, its the LFS. No? They wont return my messages about it. They told me they were tank bred, but for all I know they were wild caught and have issues.

Cutting Edge Aquatics is their name...

Ive got both maracyn 1 and 2. When should I try the maracyn 2?
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Old 07-10-2009, 11:44 PM   #12
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Either let the Maracyn 1 run out or 50% water changes over the next two days. Get a detailed picture of the clownfish as it could be any number of things regarding the bumps.

Edit: Deworming by Praziquantel for cestodes/monogeneans and Panacur (fenbendazole) for nematodes
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Old 07-11-2009, 12:57 AM   #13
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Here are some pictures. I tried my best. You'll have to excuse me if the pictures dont meet the requirements, I dont know how to manage file sizes or picture size.

The "growths" looks smaller now that I have gotten ahold of the fish and closely examined. He was none too pleased about any of this...

He still wont eat. He acts like hes looking for his copepods...I took some mysis shrimp and put them in a glass with crushed garlic. Then I mixed this with some DI water and swirled it around well. After that, I took a turkey baster (unused) and squirt this shrimp mix at him. He swam through the cloud of shrimp and DODGED it all. Nice. I then had to suck it all back out. Pshhh...
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Doesn't appear fungal to me. The pop eye is pretty obvious though, so for that reason alone I'd assume some type of bacterial infection. I'd go with whatever Maracyn medication Innovator recommended.

As far as the LFS... I don't really see it as a bad deal from them. Just because the fish are tank raised doesn't mean they'll be disease free. That's the risk you run in the hobby... I will guarantee you that you will buy more fish than you end up with in your tank, regardless of how they're raised. All we can do is create the best environment for them and hope the dice roll our way as far as the hardiness of the individual fish. I have 6 fish in my display tank. There are another 6 fish that I bought that never made it out of my quarantine tank. Guess my point is don't be too hard on yourself, or your LFS.

If it weren't for the popeye, I probably would've never even noticed those dots in the white stripe if it was my fish. In fact, I'm not sure those specs aren't normal changes in coloration. (Nice pics by the way... not sure how you could've gotten better!)
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The discoloration is either from anemone/coral stings (common) or, what I'm betting, due to the fact that it just needs medication and better overall care than received at the lfs. Not eating is common, but have you tried live brine shrimp? Take about 5-10mL of live brine shrimp and soak in fw for about 30mins. Then pour through a net and feed. If it is willing to eat the brine shrimp then it makes deworming much easier. Praziquantel can be given in a bath form.
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Are you using a QT or your regular tank to treat the clown? When you mix or thaw frozen food out for your fish use tank water, RO freshwater.
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Good tip on the brine shrimp. I didnt think of that...

Anyways...
He died.
I found him floating dead. Dont know why...

Thanks for the help! From now on, I think I will buy from ebay. That gives me SOME kind of power. (Getting a sick fish is, "not as described" and eligible for a refund).

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Just be mindful that all animals should be expected to need ich treatment and deoworming upon acquiring. Also, take note of lfs' return policies and if you must, purchase using a CC so you can challenge the purchase if the animal dies and the business doesn't adhere to their policies.
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Could one consider a fish to be "safe" if being held in a low salinity condition with cupromine?

The seller on ebay that has the tank raised clowns says they are held in low salinity and treated with cupromine to ensure they are healthy before shipment.

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