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Old 01-16-2005, 07:03 PM   #1
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Sick or stressed clown

I added two O. clowns to my setup 5 days ago. My yellowtailed damsels pretty much ruled the roost and chased the clowns around. The damsels are dominating feedings but I have seen the clowns get their share. Now to the question. Both clowns stay within 2 inches of the substrate along the glass except feeding time(they still stay in lower half of tank). I was hoping they just needed to get accustomed to my setup. Now the larger of the clowns is doing something strange. She will be swimming fine then stop moving and sit completely still along the glass and substrate. No fin movement and rapid breathing. Then after a few he will swim off and be OK again. Is he sick or just stressed. The other 3 fish are ok. I just tested to be sure all is OK. Sorry for the long post

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Old 01-16-2005, 08:19 PM   #2
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If the clown is eating and otherwise looks OK, I would say the damsels are probably stressing them.
Maybe take one or both of the damsels back to the LFS if it does not settle down soon.
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Old 01-16-2005, 08:33 PM   #3
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I figured as much- hope to get another tank up soon for them. I was planning on upgrading my daughters FW so I will take the old one for the damsels.

Do you think the clowns can wait? Or do they need to go sooner than that?

my LFS says he would them back if I needed
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Old 01-16-2005, 08:38 PM   #4
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Hard to say because I am not there to see what is happening, but if there are no physical injuries and the clowns are eating and able to swim around without getting too beat up, you could wait it out for awhile.
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Old 01-16-2005, 08:58 PM   #5
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I only feed once a day. I think the clowns could eat more but are a little nervous about coming too far up. No signs of injury to either clown. I do see the damsels swoop on both clowns once in a while.

I think they will just go to the LFS. I have my eye on a royal gramma that would be really cool. I would of gotten him sooner but didnt want to overstock. Now I can chose two new ones or maybe a flame angel.

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I have my eye on a royal gramma that would be really cool.
Now your talking, great fish!! One of the best fish in our hobby IMO.
Will get along with the clowns fine.
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Old 01-16-2005, 09:15 PM   #7
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good choice. but now the hard part...getting the damsels out of the tank. that will take you awhile and if you have live rock its going to be a long long while. or at least it always was for me when i had to move my damsel from my other tank to my big tank.
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Old 01-16-2005, 09:18 PM   #8
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I will skip feeding in the am and then hopefully scoop them up as they feed later in the day. Unless anyone else has a recommendation.
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I plan on being on the chat tonight if you can think of anything else.

capturing damsels
clown behaviour
future tank mates

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cool! See you there.
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