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Old 05-03-2011, 02:45 AM   #21
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In my time I have lost 5 chromis, 1 blue damsel, 2 royal grammas, and 1 canary blenny. Its a horrible feeling, especially with the prices. Hang in there
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Old 05-03-2011, 07:30 AM   #22
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Sorry about your loss. I don't know if that fish was stressing him out, but that combined with the substrate and rock change maybe.... Just take it slow with adding fish, and see how it goes. I had a few deaths early on myself, doesn't make it any easier, but.... As the tank matures it will get more stable and better for your fishy friends. Good Luck!
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Old 05-03-2011, 09:34 AM   #23
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So sorry scott. I was really hoping they would be found safe. You did what you had to do so you can feel good about that at least. I hope you feel better and restock soon. Really sorry about the fish
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Old 05-03-2011, 10:05 AM   #24
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Scott, So sorry to hear about your fish. Is there ANY chance that your live rock may be harboring a nasty crab that could be the culprit? I have read about them on these forums. Just a thought...can't imagine that one fish could do all that damage!
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You have to remember these are all wild caught fish so it could be nothing you have done directly. Read up on how fish are caught and brought to the LFS it will make you wonder how any actually make it to our tanks.

Did you get them all from the same store? They could have something going on in their tanks that is unseen. A lot of stores will run meds the whole time they are there.
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Old 05-03-2011, 05:34 PM   #26
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I don't think there is a chance anything could've been on the rock because it was all lace/base rock that I bought. It wasn't live when I bought it and it was dry.

It MAY have been stress from my substrate and rock change.. though the substrate change was weeks ago and I've been pulling the old rocks out ever so slowly (about 2-3 per day).

I will finish the rock change, which should be done today or tomorrow and finish my aquascaping. Then I will let the tank sit for about a week without me stirring anything up.

Then I will restock slowly starting with a couple green chromis. They are cheap and hardy and peaceful.

I really don't know what it is but I hope it does not continue.

Thanks for all of your replies!
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Old 05-05-2011, 09:22 PM   #27
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well my last fish, the clownfish, just died
damselfish wasn't in there

My water parameters have been pretty stable all of this time. My nitrites did fluctuate between 0 and 0.25, but my ammonia has always been 0 and my nitrates never got above 20. I have been doing weekly water changes, now with RO/DI water.

I have been messing with the tank alot. Like 3 weeks ago I changed the substrate from gravel to sand. Then I bought new rocks and slowly moved the old rocks out. Maybe I stressed them out too much?

Perhaps there is something in the sand I used? I used quickrete play sand bought from Lowes. Maybe I churned up too much gunk moving the rocks around?

I do use windex to clean the outside of the glass weekly, but I do that last after my hands are out of the water.

Looking for possible answers here.
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I don't know much about Play Sand for a saltwater tank. Most people (including myself) use dry aragonite sand. I'm sorry for your loss. Have you taken the water to a LFS to see if they can find something wrong?
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I definitely would not use play sand. It's super fine and it is not made of the same stuff aragonite is I'm pretty sure. I think play sand is pure silicon pretty much. Play sand is also not harvested at the beach they harvest it inland so who know what it's been in contact with. It's possible the fine-ness if the sand could have irritated the fishes gills and such. I have a hard time believing your damsel fish killed all your fish...not saying it's not possible but that seems pretty unlikely. You would have seen them fighting I think. Royal grammas are pretty aggressive fish too...they hide alot but they can fight if they want. I have a diadem pseudochromis which is a close relative and he is pretty feisty but I have an aggressive tank anyways. I would remove the sand and start over, and go slow. Use only aragonite and natural decorations (live rock) sorry about all your losses
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Old 05-06-2011, 11:08 PM   #30
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I have 50 lbs of natures ocean white marine sand
And all of my rock is all live base rock now
I could switch substrate pretty easily
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