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Old 10-30-2007, 11:21 PM   #1
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Sick Starfish

I got a chocolate starfish and 2 clown perculas from the LFS. I only had one SW tank, and had to QT them together. The perculas had a strong outburst of ich the next AM and I used "copper safe" for the tank. Now the perculas are better, but the starfish looks like it's almost dead. Are starfish sensitive to Coppersafe?
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Old 10-31-2007, 09:16 AM   #2
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Yes. Copper will kill any and all inverts.
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I have a sand crab in the same tank that's still vibrant and strong.
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Old 10-31-2007, 09:52 AM   #4
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How did you transfer the star they are not to be exposed to air .... Also some times the copper will affect diffrent animals diffrently ... But copper safe is not reef safe or invert safe.. What are your copper levels this needs to be tested as it will spike and get to toxic levels , tho inverts have a LOW tolorance to copper
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I agree, that will limit you on not putting anymore inverts in your tank. You can try to run carbon to try to remove as much as you can, but most of it is probably absorbed into just about everything in your tank, including sand, rock, seals, filter media. You may want to run some Bio Chem Zorb , this will remove heavy metals. I have never used it so I can't speak on it's effectiveness....
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Old 10-31-2007, 10:41 PM   #6
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Stars are more suseptable to copper then other inverts but they all should not be exposed to that stuff. Sorry, Bad choice on the copper safe with inverts.
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Old 11-01-2007, 08:24 AM   #7
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I put the starfish directly in the tank after acclimating in the bag. I did not put the water in, but only the starfish. If the starfish was exposed to air, it was for less than 1 second.

So then how do you treat SW fish for ich? I know the ideal way would be to have a separate QT tank. But in my case, I had only 1 SW tank.
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Your in the same boat I was in. I made a makeshift QT from a plastic tote. Threw in my GAC bag from the main tank (to seed QT with bacteria) and a few pieces of PVC, powerhead, heater and a cheap HOB filter. Had to cycle it. Then after the cycle was over, I could put the fish in it and let the main tank fallow while treating the fish in the QT. I got lucky in the fact that nothing died while waiting for the QT to cycle.
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Starfish are not suseptiable to ich try to target feed him to see if you can get him to eat ... Stars once sick are difficult at best to "cure" But since you dosed with copper it will be difficult to ever house inverts as it will be in the rocks, sand and the seams of the silicone on the tank..... and will continue to leach out over time ...Get a copper test kit and see what your readings are at also add the bio chem zorb (replace frequently ) replace all filter pads and start doing some water changes to see if you can get your copper to 0. I would still worry about it leaching from the rocks and the sand tho
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Here is the next chapter in the story. The starfish died. But I aquired 30 gallon tank, so I'm setting it up as my main SW tank and plan to rehab the 20 gallon I was using for the SW QT tank. I plan transfer the inbabitants to the 30 gallon, get rid of the substrate and any calcium based contents like shells in the 20 gallon, and boil and reuse the rocks. Sadder but wiser. At least a little bit wiser I hope...
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