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Old 11-10-2003, 12:49 AM   #21
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Old 11-10-2003, 10:27 AM   #24
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I hear Sea Cucumbers stir up the sand a lot in their travels.
the problem with them is if they get mad or stressed they will wipe out your whole tank
I never heard that sea cucumbers can kill our whole tank? I heard sea apples can but I thought sea cucumbers were safe.

I do have some crabs and 2 coral banded shrimp but I've never seen them bothering the sea cucumber because he's been at the top ever since I got him.
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I never heard that sea cucumbers can kill our whole tank? I heard sea apples can but I thought sea cucumbers were safe.
A sea apple is a species of cucumber. All cukes have the ability to expell their innards when under stress and poison the tank, hence the term cuke nuke.
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"they cast out their respiratory trees, gonads, gastrointestinal track and its contents through their mouth and anus. the result is poisoning/pollution/death and destruction too all other tankmates.......some other spieces have a further refinement to this anti-predatation mechanism, useing what are called cuvierian organs. these sticky fibers are discharged out thier ends onto threatening predators." qouted from robert fenner, the conscientous marine aquarist
Wow. I wonder how the fish store people get them off the glass and into a bag if someone buys one!
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I never heard that sea cucumbers can kill our whole tank? I heard sea apples can but I thought sea cucumbers were safe.
A sea apple is a species of cucumber. All cukes have the ability to expell their innards when under stress and poison the tank, hence the term cuke nuke.
Wow, so my pink knobby cuke could kill my entire tank? I don't even know if I could get rid of him because he's basically impossible to get off the glass. I'm worried now
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Having a cuke do a "melt down" is not the only threat from these creatures. If the environment you provide is to their liking, they can also spawn. If a male, you will not have much concern as the sperm is easily removed with skimming and carbon and will not poison the water.

The female is quite the opposite. I learned this one the hard way. Having a sea apple about three years back, she decided to release her eggs into the water column which killed every fish in the tank. When this happens, there is little to nothing that can be done about it.

If you do decide on a cuke, I would suggest sticking with a tigertail. If the tank size is larger 75+ gal, there will be much less chance of it nuking the tank and can be helped with a few water changes. Please also be sure the tank is properly mature and stable. Adding them to newer tanks is not advisable due to lack of food and possible poisoning from improper water quality.

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WOW, thank Steve-s, now I am really worried. I guess I need to get my pink knobby guy out somehow and take him back to the LFS. Everytime I see them for sale online they don't say anything about them being toxic so I assumed they were ok. I like him so much but I have the worst luck with stuff killing others that are "supposed" to be safe so I better not chance this guy
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Jamal, be careful, for heaven's sake! Don't stress him out - and don't turn him on either, LOL - when you take him off the glass!!

We should rename this thread "sand sifters - what NOT to get"
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