Go Back   Aquarium Advice - Aquarium Forum Community > Saltwater and Reef > Saltwater & Reef - Sick Fish or Coral
Click Here to Login

Join Aquarium Advice Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com
 
Old 05-15-2004, 10:48 PM   #1
Aquarium Advice FINatic
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Kissimmee FL
Posts: 867
Something is definately wrong

There has got to be something really wrong in my tank. My angel, whom i treated for ich (and the spots dissappeared...is now back out of the main tank...he probabally won't make it. His body is puffed out underneath and in the middle. One fin isn't working and he has NO SPOTS! He is breathing very heavily. ) I took my corals to a friends house and my "sick bubble coral" immediatly improved. He looks normal now. She now has all my corals! What can I do for my other fish? Do they have it too? I did a 20% water change and Nitrates are down from 40 to 30...ph is 8.2, salt content is 1.024, Nitrites 0, alk 300 or above, cal 500, phosphates are 5!!! I bought some sponges to reduce it but nothing happened, so I am going back to the fish store to get something stronger and get more water for another 20% change. My main concern is to save all the fish I can....how will I know if the other fish are affected? They seem normal?
__________________

__________________
clowninround is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2004, 10:58 PM   #2
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 5,832
Send a message via Yahoo to quarryshark
Well, it may be velvet, sometime it does not show "spots", but the heavy gilling is a clue. It could also be some kind of internal bacterial infestion as illustrated by the distended abdomen. Do you have any antibiotic like maracyn 2?
If he makes it through the night and if he is in qt, I would consider treating with the above and starting a copper regiment, cupramine is what I use.
Some may not agree, but he is not too stressed, I would try a properly conducted fw dip. If it is parasitic, it could give some relief and buy you some time. This is radical, but your fish sounds to be in bad shape.
I would watch the other fish very close and be ready to move them if they show any symptoms.
Good luck, thoughts are with you.
__________________

__________________
quarryshark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2004, 11:24 PM   #3
Aquarium Advice FINatic
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Kissimmee FL
Posts: 867
I don't have any fw ro/di...just tap...it has something in it thats bad for fish...don't remember what it was.. copper maybe??? I will have more f/w ro in the morning. Would that matter being that its only for a few minutes? Thanks...I am chucking everything in the tank...water and rocks and sand....when I get the other tank...and starting over.
__________________
Alex n Mary

150 gallon, 30g fuge/sump, 4.5 watt/gal VHO Lighting, 4" sand bed, 290 lbs LR, CDX-3 Nitrate/Phosphate filter

Female Naso "Isabell" or "Izzy", Emperor Angelfish, Flame Angel, Red Sea Sailfin tang "Bambi", Maroon Clown "Nani", 5 Chromis, 1 Aglae Blenny "Bengi" , Yellow Watchman Goby, pr of Banggai Cardinals, Lyretail Anthia, Six Line Wrasse

1 cleaner shrimp, Coral Banded Shrimp, lettuce nudibranch, 1 sand sifter stars, 1 tiny red brittle star "red", 1 tiny red and white banded serpent star, 2 tiny banded serpent stars, small orange Linkia starfish, assorted hermits and snails. Corals: star polyps, A ton of different types of mushrooms, yellow zooanthids, brown-orangish and light blue paly's, orange ricordia.

90g RR, W/D, 120 lb's LR SF eel, pygmy angel, pr sebae clownfish, 4 chromis. Star Polyps & Mushrooms
clowninround is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2004, 11:44 PM   #4
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 5,832
Send a message via Yahoo to quarryshark
Shouldn't need to chuck everything. if you have a parasite (ich or velvet) a period of 4 weeks (6 would be better) void of fish will allow the parasite to go through its life cycle and die off. I went through a velevet battle and won with this strategy.
The 2 main things with a fw dip are a temp and ph match to the tank water. Also if using tap water, you need to use a dechlorinate. It's the chlorine thats bad.
If you can get through the night, I would start treatment and consider moving the other fish out (inverts are not suseptable) for treatment.
Once again, if this is a parasite.
Whats the history of the illness?
__________________
quarryshark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2004, 12:19 AM   #5
Aquarium Advice FINatic
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Kissimmee FL
Posts: 867
what do u mean by history of illness?
__________________
Alex n Mary

150 gallon, 30g fuge/sump, 4.5 watt/gal VHO Lighting, 4" sand bed, 290 lbs LR, CDX-3 Nitrate/Phosphate filter

Female Naso "Isabell" or "Izzy", Emperor Angelfish, Flame Angel, Red Sea Sailfin tang "Bambi", Maroon Clown "Nani", 5 Chromis, 1 Aglae Blenny "Bengi" , Yellow Watchman Goby, pr of Banggai Cardinals, Lyretail Anthia, Six Line Wrasse

1 cleaner shrimp, Coral Banded Shrimp, lettuce nudibranch, 1 sand sifter stars, 1 tiny red brittle star "red", 1 tiny red and white banded serpent star, 2 tiny banded serpent stars, small orange Linkia starfish, assorted hermits and snails. Corals: star polyps, A ton of different types of mushrooms, yellow zooanthids, brown-orangish and light blue paly's, orange ricordia.

90g RR, W/D, 120 lb's LR SF eel, pygmy angel, pr sebae clownfish, 4 chromis. Star Polyps & Mushrooms
clowninround is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2004, 12:24 AM   #6
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 5,832
Send a message via Yahoo to quarryshark
You stated the angel had been treated for ich, how did you treat?
__________________
quarryshark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2004, 11:47 AM   #7
Aquarium Advice FINatic
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Kissimmee FL
Posts: 867
I took him out and treated him with kick ich for 2x weeks, the lady in the lfs told me how to do it. After 2 or 3 days most of his spots dissappeared and in the next few days his last spot dissappeared. Then when I moved him, he got another spot so I treated the main tank...in case anyone else had it. He seemed to be doing fine yesterday and his spot dissappeared. i went to a bbq and came back and there he was laying at the bottom of the tank, bloated and gasping for air. He didn't make it last night...I don't think I can deal with another death from the tank. What do I do? I have a 10 gallon tank for qt, the clown is 3 inches, the blue tang 1" and a manderin at full size. They are all pretty small, can I put them in all together?
__________________
Alex n Mary

150 gallon, 30g fuge/sump, 4.5 watt/gal VHO Lighting, 4" sand bed, 290 lbs LR, CDX-3 Nitrate/Phosphate filter

Female Naso "Isabell" or "Izzy", Emperor Angelfish, Flame Angel, Red Sea Sailfin tang "Bambi", Maroon Clown "Nani", 5 Chromis, 1 Aglae Blenny "Bengi" , Yellow Watchman Goby, pr of Banggai Cardinals, Lyretail Anthia, Six Line Wrasse

1 cleaner shrimp, Coral Banded Shrimp, lettuce nudibranch, 1 sand sifter stars, 1 tiny red brittle star "red", 1 tiny red and white banded serpent star, 2 tiny banded serpent stars, small orange Linkia starfish, assorted hermits and snails. Corals: star polyps, A ton of different types of mushrooms, yellow zooanthids, brown-orangish and light blue paly's, orange ricordia.

90g RR, W/D, 120 lb's LR SF eel, pygmy angel, pr sebae clownfish, 4 chromis. Star Polyps & Mushrooms
clowninround is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2004, 11:49 AM   #8
Aquarium Advice FINatic
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Kissimmee FL
Posts: 867
I thought of something else....what in the world would the manderin eat in a qt tank???
__________________
Alex n Mary

150 gallon, 30g fuge/sump, 4.5 watt/gal VHO Lighting, 4" sand bed, 290 lbs LR, CDX-3 Nitrate/Phosphate filter

Female Naso "Isabell" or "Izzy", Emperor Angelfish, Flame Angel, Red Sea Sailfin tang "Bambi", Maroon Clown "Nani", 5 Chromis, 1 Aglae Blenny "Bengi" , Yellow Watchman Goby, pr of Banggai Cardinals, Lyretail Anthia, Six Line Wrasse

1 cleaner shrimp, Coral Banded Shrimp, lettuce nudibranch, 1 sand sifter stars, 1 tiny red brittle star "red", 1 tiny red and white banded serpent star, 2 tiny banded serpent stars, small orange Linkia starfish, assorted hermits and snails. Corals: star polyps, A ton of different types of mushrooms, yellow zooanthids, brown-orangish and light blue paly's, orange ricordia.

90g RR, W/D, 120 lb's LR SF eel, pygmy angel, pr sebae clownfish, 4 chromis. Star Polyps & Mushrooms
clowninround is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2004, 11:52 AM   #9
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 5,832
Send a message via Yahoo to quarryshark
You may want to get a 20 gallon if you can. Leave the main tank void of fish hosts as described above. Treat your fish (if they show symptoms) with cupramine in qt, kick ich is not a good med.
It worked for me when my fish came down with velvet.
Sorry for your loss.
__________________
quarryshark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2004, 11:53 AM   #10
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 5,832
Send a message via Yahoo to quarryshark
Not sure about the manderin, maybe an advisor can help out here. Not sure if it should be treated with meds either.
Maybe another 10 gallon, you could treat him separately and treat the other 2 in your current 10.
__________________

__________________
quarryshark is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Definately a beginner Woody5465 Member Introductions 6 07-24-2009 11:44 AM
What am I doing wrong??? dld65 Saltwater & Reef - Sick Fish or Coral 13 08-22-2008 01:50 PM
Will Butterfly fish definately eat coral? bonnie3188 Saltwater Reef Aquaria 6 04-16-2006 02:00 PM
Must be doing something wrong... SaltwaterDreams Freshwater & Brackish - Planted Tanks 7 06-21-2005 04:08 PM
I definately need some help here! Kari Freshwater & Brackish - General Discussion 35 04-19-2005 06:52 PM







» Photo Contest Winners








Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:55 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.