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Old 12-17-2012, 06:01 PM   #1
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something killed my blue mandarin

Not sure where to put this post. Think I put it in wrong spot. Got a new blue mandarin yesterday. It was doing fine, came home today and found him dead with his head eaten and nothing left but the skull and body. Here is what I have in my tank.

100 gal tank
1 foxface rabbit
2 cardinals
2 firefish
1 scooter blenny
1 pipefish
1 emerald crab
1 cleaner shrimp
1 arrowhead crab
various hermit crabs and snails

In all my research none of these fish were listed as a problem with them.
Anyone have any idea what killed him? I want to get another but can't until I figure out what killed him.

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Old 12-17-2012, 07:32 PM   #2
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itt is hard to identify who killed it, as most Mandarin are not being taking care of , and it could be half sttarve to death by the time you get it in your tank. It could simply die because of starvation and stress at the same time. It is very likely that something ate it after it died.
All the crabs/hermit crabs and shrimps are capable doing that if it is already dead. Sorry to hear your lost tho as Mandarin is one of the most beautiful fish in Salt water aquarium.
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Old 12-17-2012, 07:37 PM   #3
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...and one of the most difficult to keep alive. Was it eating at the store you got it from or were you planning to try and train it? I don't see any fish in there that would kill it. Maybe the emerald crab if it was hungry and lucky enough?
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Old 12-17-2012, 09:13 PM   #4
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Not sure where to put this post. Think I put it in wrong spot. Got a new blue mandarin yesterday. It was doing fine, came home today and found him dead with his head eaten and nothing left but the skull and body. Here is what I have in my tank.

100 gal tank
1 foxface rabbit
2 cardinals
2 firefish
1 scooter blenny
1 pipefish
1 emerald crab
1 cleaner shrimp
1 arrowhead crab
various hermit crabs and snails

In all my research none of these fish were listed as a problem with them.
Anyone have any idea what killed him? I want to get another but can't until I figure out what killed him.

Thanks
Trish
It could be a lot of things. Most likely with the timing my guess is stress due to acclimation. Did you drip acclimate? Also, bottom dwelling tank mates can be territorial. It's hard to say as the temperament of fish are general but sometimes you will get a few that are more aggressive than the description indicates.
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Old 12-17-2012, 09:26 PM   #5
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I would say the murderer is... (Pause for effect)... the supply chain leading up to your purchase!
As stated already, these are difficult fish under the best of circumstances. That it died so quickly makes me think you never stood a chance.
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Old 12-18-2012, 01:50 AM   #7
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Very few things will kill a mandarin. Very few will eat a living one. Their slime coat contains a chemical that is apparently very bad tasting and possibly toxic. Only once their dead will things start chowing down.
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Old 12-18-2012, 04:33 PM   #8
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My husband picked this fish up so I don't know the paticulars as to how it was eating. He did not look too thin when it arrived, but sometimes its hard to tell, and I immediately put copepods in the tank because I had read up on how difficult it is to feed them. I agree that it must have been stress and maybe he was starving when we got him. I would like to get another one, they are beautiful fish, but I will ask more questions where I buy him. I will probably never know what got him, I hope it wasn't the arrow crab, he doesn't bother any other fish that I have seen. But who knows what goes on in the dark of night lol. Thanks all of you for all your answeres.

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I agree with the others on this forum. He died then the arrow crab or other scavenger did the visible damage. We all harp on mandarins as it is the same story over and over again. There are those that have been successful with them, some because of hard work, some are just lucky. Same with tangs in small tanks. But in general, when a fish or coral is listed as difficult, even moderate care, you should reflect on your experience level before buying.
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Not sure where to put this post. Think I put it in wrong spot. Got a new blue mandarin yesterday. It was doing fine, came home today and found him dead with his head eaten and nothing left but the skull and body. Here is what I have in my tank.

100 gal tank
1 foxface rabbit
2 cardinals
2 firefish
1 scooter blenny
1 pipefish
1 emerald crab
1 cleaner shrimp
1 arrowhead crab
various hermit crabs and snails

In all my research none of these fish were listed as a problem with them.
Anyone have any idea what killed him? I want to get another but can't until I figure out what killed him.

Thanks
Trish
How big is your emerald? Iv personally witness my emerald catch a 5" long goby and drag it behind a rock
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