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Old 02-13-2005, 11:57 AM   #1
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Strange bruise on chromi

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I recently got a few green chromis that are now in QT. One has a red strip funning vertically down his side about halfway down his body. It looks like almost bloody under the scales. The same fish is breathing harder and nipping at the other two chromis in the tank.

Is this a treatable disease, or is this some kind of injury? What can I do to save him and the other two fish?

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Old 02-13-2005, 01:16 PM   #2
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What are the water parameters of the QT? NH3, NO2 and NO3 along with pH/Alk? How long have you had the Chromis and when did the red stripe appear?

Could be bacterial or pH related.

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NH3, NO2, NO3 all 0. pH is 8.1. Not sure on the Alk. I've had the Chromis about a week, and the stripe appeared last night, but only on one.
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Might actually be bacterial then. What I would do first is a few good sized water changes over the next few days with well aged/aerated SW. This will often do the trick. It lowers available DOc feeding bacteria and simultantously aids the pH if there's any issue there. Be sure you are also feeding the Chromis a well fortified diet adding a mutlivitamin to the food preferabley high in [acronym="Highly Unsaturated Fatty Acid"]HUFA[/acronym]. This first step will often improve conditions allowing the fish to fight the malady on their own without the need for meds.

If after a few days you see no improvement, you may need to treat with an antibiotic. Either Maracyn II at double the dose daily each day for seven days total or nitrifurazone (Furacyn) at a one time dose of 30 mg/gal.

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Ok, I'm doing a 50% water change right now. I've been feeding them flake food, and I have Zoe vitamins and garlic which I will add. Will that be sufficient?
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Be sure the new SW specs match your QT's as much as possible. The larger the water change the more important this becomes. Also be sure it mixes with a powerhead for a good 24 hrs before use.

Garlic won't help much in this regard but the Zoe is a plus although does not contain [acronym="Highly Unsaturated Fatty Acid"]HUFA[/acronym]'s. If available, I would try finding Selcon or Zoecon.

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Well, this morning one of the chrmis was dead. Not the one with the bruise, either. Upoin post-morten exam, it looks like this chromi had just started the get the odd stripe, but he it wasn't there yesterday. The other two chromis are alive.

The specs of my change water were very close to the specs in the tank, and it had been mixing for a a day or two before I sued it. I keep water on hand in case of these emergencies.

Just to vent, I've been trying to add new fish to my tank for like 6 months, but they never make it out of QT. Each time they pass away, I take down the tank, clean with bleach and start again. I've had 3 royal grammas not make it (one had velvet, the other two I died without any noticeable symptoms), and now this chromi (let's face it, chromis). I'm at a loss. I didn't think getting new fish would be this frustrating.
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Change lfs. Just to make sure it's not their stocking procedures.
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Sorry for your loss

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Well, this morning one of the chrmis was dead. Not the one with the bruise, either. Upoin post-morten exam, it looks like this chromi had just started the get the odd stripe, but he it wasn't there yesterday.
Was it a thin line or a red blotch like the bruise?

FWIW, I agree with Gerald. If you keep having dismal results using the same LFS, it would be a good idea to find an alternate source for fish.

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It is a blotch, not a thin line.

FYI, the majority of the livestock have been coming from LiveAquaria.
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