Go Back   Aquarium Advice - Aquarium Forum Community > Saltwater and Reef > Saltwater & Reef - Sick Fish or Coral
Click Here to Login

Join Aquarium Advice Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com
 
Old 03-16-2004, 05:20 PM   #1
Aquarium Advice Regular
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Dublin, CA
Posts: 81
Suggestions for Tackling Ich

A week ago, I'd noticed my porcupine puffer and flame angel coming down with a few spots of ich. I treated for a week with Greenex, and the spots disappeared, but yesterday the puffer was covered in spots, as was the angel. (There is a yellow tang and a false perc in there as well, that so far look okay.)

I only have a 10-gallon QT, so we bought a 23-gallon rubbermaid container to serve as a QT, and I'm going to put all 4 fish in there and leave the tank fallow for 4 weeks.

I'm trying to decide what course of treatment to take. The problem is, I don't have a refractometer. Best I can do is either a swing arm (what we have now) or a glass hydrometer. Is either of these going to work well enough to safely do hyposalinity? Is there enough time to do hyposalinity? The puffer has the worst of the spots, and so far seems fine, but I'm concerned that he's going to start heading downhill if it isn't taken care of soon, especially since this has been going on for a week now.

The other problem is that I know puffers are sensitive to copper treatments. So I'm really not sure at this point which would be the safer method.

Any suggestions?
__________________

__________________
Natterjak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2004, 06:51 PM   #2
Aquarium Advice Regular
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Dublin, CA
Posts: 81
I went down to the LFS and tried to find some cupramine, and ended up talking to one of the workers there who was convinced that the puffer was being picked on, and that was the cause of the ich outbreak. While the puffer seems to be the one that breaks out first, I've never seen him be picked on. The guy said that even after leaving the main tank fallow and treating the fish, he would bet that the puffer would come down with ich again due to stress.

My question is, for anyone who's gone and QT'd all their fish and left the main tank fallow for 4-6 weeks, have you ever had another outbreak of ich, even when the fish were stressed?

Also, what should I do to maintain the bacteria in the main tank while its fishless?
__________________

__________________
Natterjak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2004, 12:48 AM   #3
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 5,832
Send a message via Yahoo to quarryshark
Just put mine back in after a velvet oubreak. I left it fallow for 8 weeks, so far so good. As far as feeding your bacteria, you can throw a raw shrimp in there every few days.
Good luck
__________________
quarryshark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2004, 02:51 PM   #4
steve-s
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by Natterjak
My question is, for anyone who's gone and QT'd all their fish and left the main tank fallow for 4-6 weeks, have you ever had another outbreak of ich, even when the fish were stressed?
Your LFS like many is perpetuating the myth that ick is inherent to all fish no matter what, which is incorrect. It is more than possible for the main tank to be parasite free indefinately provided they are introduced properly. If the fish are treated successfully and the main tank left fallow for the proper period, this will not be a problem in future. You must also ensure that any new fish are properly introduced via quarantine and observed for a 4 week period to ensure no re-introductions. FWIW, Greenex is a poor choice for dealing with C. irritans

Re-occurances are only a concern if the tank is not left fallow for a minimum of 4 weeks (depending on protozoan) and/or the fish treatment was not successful. Fish do not simpley "develope" the parasite.

Quote:
Also, what should I do to maintain the bacteria in the main tank while its fishless?
As mentioned, adding small amounts of food weekly should maintain the bacteria. The food you would normally feed the fish will be sufficient and only once or twice a week is needed. Also be sure to add the fish back one at a time so you will not overload the display tanks biofilter. Least aggressive first.

Cheers
Steve
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2004, 04:20 PM   #5
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Dallas
Posts: 1,134
Steve is right on the money. Ich can only live for 4 weeks with out a host. That includes the full life cycle and their offspring. But for the tank to be ich free, it has to be fallow for the full 4weeks...6 is better. Even if you dont see the ich on the fish they can still be present is small enough amounts to keep the population alive. Add a little stress or injury and you have the right mix for another outbreak. Check out http://www.reef-aquarium.net/resources/disease/ich.html for more detailed info on ich, its lifecycle, and treatment.
__________________
http://www.reef-aquarium.net

175gallon reef

5,100 gal pond

Fish are people too!
SquishyFish is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
ich, suggestions

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Do I treat for ich too quickly ? aka is it really ich ? joannde Freshwater & Brackish - Unhealthy Fish 4 07-23-2006 09:03 PM
ICH ICH ICH why wont it leave? Brian Vartanian Saltwater & Reef - Sick Fish or Coral 9 04-04-2006 09:23 AM
Tackling my nitrates & BIG thanks to mike @ liverocks.co amahler Saltwater Reef Aquaria 1 05-03-2005 07:44 PM
after ich meltdown, ich and live plants Alchemy129 Freshwater & Brackish - Unhealthy Fish 2 12-05-2004 03:48 PM
An Ich thread, for the sake of discussing Ich Menagerie Freshwater & Brackish - Unhealthy Fish 21 06-22-2004 05:46 PM







» Photo Contest Winners








Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:32 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.