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Old 06-08-2005, 10:33 PM   #11
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My purple tang is just fine. I'm not buying the temp flux. My green chromis aren't sweating any either....
I'm not saying your wrong or trying to prove you wrong but, one of my chromis' decided it would be a good idea to jump out of the tank had nothing to do w/ water. The PT I forgot to mention was new had him for 3 days. So the stress of being moved then the added stress of the temperature flux. may have added to the stress just an idea. But according to the man at my LFS which is all saltwater/coral said many people have lost there fish due to temp flux. this weekend and thats how we came to a conclusion. If all water peramiters are in check and salinity is fine. With both mine and the stores test then what else can I tell you besides temp is the only thing I've noticed? Please let me know again "I'm not trying to prove you wrong."
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I was just reading someones post and it say it killed one of there fish could this be the cause of why the Chromis lost an eye and how would I know? If I havnt seen it attacking anything?
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Old 06-09-2005, 01:18 AM   #13
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I'm not quite sure of what's happening but I have had large temp swings overnight and never had any deaths because of it. A temp swing happens rather gradually so in a way the fish get acclimated the the new temp slowly. I'm not sure if that is indeed the problem. What if anything did you introduce to your tank and how long ago?
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PT was introduced on Saturday along with the Chromis, Chromis died from jumping. The PT died I believe from either not being aclimated properly dripped him for 45min maybe needed longer or temp swings because peramitiers are fine. The PT died on Tuesday at 1230AM so it could have been an aclimation problem it is close. Or them temp swings I'm not sure. But since the other fish are still alive thats what I have come to! Also PT's arnt very hardy fish so that could have lead to it. Its just that the guy at the store mention many deaths because of temp. flux's. so I put it in that catigory and seeing how the Chomis and the Manderine are hardy though the Manderine is listed as dificult because of its eating habbits I didnt know what else to put it on.
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I was just reading your other post on this subject. You said your tang was gasping for air. I could be wrong but this doesn't sound like a temp related reaction to me. Like I said if your temp swings 4 or 5 degrees it does this over a few hours. These fish can handle temps as high as 86 or as low as 76 so unless the temp swing is very sudden I can't see that being a cause of death. Lack of oxygen or the presence of ammonia are two of the more predominant reasons for gasping fish. There could have been a parasite introduced when you added those fish. I really hope you haven't bought anymore fish until you know for sure what's wrong.
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Old 06-09-2005, 01:36 AM   #16
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not really the time to critisize him it isn't it? Kohan?
most people add that fish in cuz they are so atractive, nothing new to us.
A lot of people belive they be able to keep the fish a live by try to get them to eat frozen food so, either way we should give good advice and info on his current stats instead of asking why he did it the first place.
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Old 06-09-2005, 01:51 AM   #17
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not really the time to critisize him it isn't it? we should give good advice and info on his current stats instead of asking why he did it the first place.
This is a touchy subject, merely because this forum is intended to give people good advice on their decisions to help them keep proper animal husbandry. Now, in theory, yes... we should not criticize... however, realize that these threads are open for all to read... expert and beginner. None of us are willing to sit and do nothing if we are aware of unproper husbandry without mentioning a corrective course of action. This member has expressed several times trouble he has been having with his situation. The attitude to get a fish just because it was "cheap" definitely is something that I myself wouldn't condone, or suggest that anyone else should follow.

Now, he asked for help with his Purple Tang as to why it would die... help was given. Now, he wants to add in fish straight back into the mix, with what is considered poor justification, and questionable motives. This in itself is cause to raise an eyebrow and bring it to his attention. In the end, we wish to help him with the best decisions for the livelihood of his fish, and to help him to not get discouraged from setbacks. No remarks are meant to be hurtful. I know that if I mentioned that I was going to put something in my tank that was horribly misplaced, I would appreciate others telling me I was making a mistake. All advice is intended for this purpose... whether asked directly or not.

That being said... everyone is entitled to his or her own opinions, and nobody is required to follow the advice of one specific person. None of us are tested pros... we just learn from each other and keep an open mind for aquarium advice.

And now back to our originally scheduled program...
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not really the time to critisize him it isn't it? we should give good advice and info on his current stats instead of asking why he did it the first place.
This is a touchy subject, merely because this forum is intended to give people good advice on their decisions to help them keep proper animal husbandry. Now, in theory, yes... we should not criticize... however, realize that these threads are open for all to read... expert and beginner. None of us are willing to sit and do nothing if we are aware of unproper husbandry without mentioning a corrective course of action. This member has expressed several times trouble he has been having with his situation. The attitude to get a fish just because it was "cheap" definitely is something that I myself wouldn't condone, or suggest that anyone else should follow.

Now, he asked for help with his Purple Tang as to why it would die... help was given. Now, he wants to add in fish straight back into the mix, with what is considered poor justification, and questionable motives. This in itself is cause to raise an eyebrow and bring it to his attention. In the end, we wish to help him with the best decisions for the livelihood of his fish, and to help him to not get discouraged from setbacks. No remarks are meant to be hurtful. I know that if I mentioned that I was going to put something in my tank that was horribly misplaced, I would appreciate others telling me I was making a mistake. All advice is intended for this purpose... whether asked directly or not.

That being said... everyone is entitled to his or her own opinions, and nobody is required to follow the advice of one specific person. None of us are tested pros... we just learn from each other and keep an open mind for aquarium advice.

And now back to our originally scheduled program...
maybe if u read carefully wat kohan's post u maybe figure out he isn't saying anything about adding more fish, he was saying why the guy baught a mandarin at the first place which alrdy been done so nothing he can do about it other than return the fish to the lfs if something must be done.I ain't saying that others can't give comment on wat is wrong. I totally agree on not adding any more fish before find out watz really killing those fish.
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Good luck on your new fish. If your water is in good shape and you can get the temp to stay a little more consistant than go for a new fish. But PLEASE make sure every thingin the tank is ok. I understand the chromis carpet surfing, I have had that too. As for the PT make sure you acclimate for atleast an hour if driping. It takes a while for a drop a second to bring 10 cups of water to the same parameters. I am moving to the side of improper acclimation on the reason for the PT death. As for the manderine, just watch him if he get too skinney you can buy pod kits off the internet. The brine will only be like candy as they do not have much nutrirional value in them for the fish. Good luck with your tank!!!
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When did i say their was something wrong with adding the mandarin. I posted " Im jsut wandering why you got a green mandarin when ur tank is only 2-3 months old."
Never once did i critisize ANYONE. I was just wondering because i am curious. I wanted to know if his mandarin is doing well. Im sorry for not just PMing him.
But then Seriuous Dude justifies why he bought his mandarin with a very good answer.

Im sorry Serious Dude taht i contributed to ruining ur thread.
I hope that your fish do well.

"curiousity killed the cat" Once again im sorry.
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