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Old 09-17-2011, 11:29 PM   #1
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Trying This Again

Alright...round two with the ich.

First time...

All fish were fine (six line, clown pair, firefish, yellow tang). Then I added the blue tang and all **** broke loose. I moved all the fish to QT (no I didn't use one beforehand). Dropped the salinity down to what was probably too low...1.006/7. The ich went away in about a week, but so did my six line wrasse's fins. He didn't have fin rot..I checked.. but the stress of the low salinity and pH caused his fins to kind of break off ( I guess kind of how humans lose more hair when they are stressed). The wrasse finally just died on me - never a spot of ich to be seen. So I said to **** with it and put all the fish back in DT.

Well...this morning fish were ok, few spots on yellow tang. I have been using Ich Attack. Tonight when I got home, both of my tangs looked like freakin snowflakes...just covered in white dots!!

So now I'm going to try this again. Here's the plan:

Both tangs are going to go in their own QT since they are the ones that keep breaking out.

The firefish and clown pair will also go in their own QT since they have yet to show any spots.

Going to drop the salinity to 1.015 and keep the temperature around 80F.

Please tell me your thoughts - especially about the proper salinity. Thanks again for any information.
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1.010 would be the LOWEST I would ever go, and that increases stress, adding to the stress of being put into QT. I would use a copper based ich medicine ONLY IN THE QT! good idea for the 2 QT tanks, though.
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First and foremost, a 40g tank is way to small for any 1 tang, let alone 2.

When you put all these fish in your qt tank, was it cycled or was it a brand new setup? If the tank wasn't cycled, are you doing daily water change to control ammonia? The fins on the wrasse most like erroded from ammonia burn if the qt wasn't a well established tank capable of handling all those fish.

Dropping the salinity to 1.015 and raising the temp will do nothing. You need to be at 1.009 for proper hypo. Rasing the temp might work for freshwater ich, but does nothing for saltwater ich. Are you using a properly calibrated refractometer to measure your salinity?

Don't waste your money on so called "Reef Safe" ich cures like Ich Attach. They don't work.

Read this 2 part article....
Marine Ich/Cryptocaryon irritans - A Discussion of this Parasite and the Treatment Options Available, Part I by Steven Pro - Reefkeeping.com
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1.010 would be the LOWEST I would ever go, and that increases stress, adding to the stress of being put into QT. I would use a copper based ich medicine ONLY IN THE QT! good idea for the 2 QT tanks, though.
No, this will not get it done,,please just read about hypo and don't assume you know how to do it...1.009 is the target and i have ALWAYS did 1.008,,i have done hypo dozens of times and never lost a fish

cc,i didn't even pick up on the tank size ,,,,good point
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I know about hypo, but I would just not do it. If I saw my QT with anything lower than 1.014 I would freak out. It is just not very healthy and stressful to the fish IME. I did hypo for a bicolor blenny, follwed all directions, but he died in about 4 hours. He didnt look very healthy to begin with, and I think the low salinity caused stress and that was the end of him :/
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I know about hypo, but I would just not do it. If I saw my QT with anything lower than 1.014 I would freak out. It is just not very healthy and stressful to the fish IME. I did hypo for a bicolor blenny, follwed all directions, but he died in about 4 hours. He didnt look very healthy to begin with, and I think the low salinity caused stress and that was the end of him :/
Lower salinity does not stress the fish,,it relaxes them and lets them breath easier,completely healthy ,,would much rather do this to them over poisoning them with copper...JMHO
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Not sure what i was supposed to be getting out of your link??
I think i put a little more trust in the guys at WWM over About.com ,,thats just me
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It just said that 1.010 would be ok. About.com is where I get a lot of info if I dont get it from here. IMO It would just be harder to maintain. But whatever works for you, works for you
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