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Old 11-19-2013, 03:54 PM   #21
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I feel that copper or hypo are it. Anything else is questionable, at best, and the people that swear that Snake Oil XYZ cured their fish, probably had fish where the Ich dropped off and the fish was stronger in round 2 when it came back and has not shown signs. Fish can have it and not show signs and it can be present in a tank without negative consequences. Fish in a tank with proper nutrition, good water, low stress, etc are perfectly able to keep it at bay.

Garlic entices fish to eat. Fish that eat are stronger than fish that don't eat. Stronger fish have higher immunity to the various nasties. IMO, garlic helps at times, but can not be considered a cure or even a treatment.
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Old 11-20-2013, 01:29 PM   #22
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Well this morning my coral beauty is 50% better than yesterday...I dosed two times yesterday at 1.5 times the dosage rec commendation...and have been feeding garlic...I'll keep you guys posted..oh and my corals are doing good as well..
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Old 11-20-2013, 01:52 PM   #23
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Keep in mind that part of the life cycle is where it drops off of the fish, into/onto sand/rock. This is where people believe that their fish is cured. It can look like a miraculous cure, when in fact, it is simply just doing its thing and is still there.
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Old 11-20-2013, 01:59 PM   #24
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Keep in mind that part of the life cycle is where it drops off of the fish, into/onto sand/rock. This is where people believe that their fish is cured. It can look like a miraculous cure, when in fact, it is simply just doing its thing and is still there.
yes sir! i know that..i wont know if this product works for me for a few weeks if it doesnt come back, i know that as well! thanks though!
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Old 11-20-2013, 02:07 PM   #25
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I just went to the Kordon site and it makes statements like "...it is an inhibitor, not an eliminator..." and "it stops infections and external parasitic invasions from getting started..." It sounds more to me like it is another herbal additive that helps build a fish's slime coat, but does not cure anything once they have something like Ich.

There have been many scientific studies that show Hyposalinity and copper-based treatments are the only things that cure Ich. Your fish may eventually not show signs, but Ich will still be present in the tank... it still has a host and nothing to kill it off.
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Old 11-20-2013, 04:39 PM   #26
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If my fish is very health with no ich..wouldn't the ich die because it has no host? And in just trying what I can I do not have a qt tank...
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Old 11-20-2013, 05:33 PM   #27
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Fish can still have Ich without having visible signs. Often it ends up in their gills and does not present as white spots on the body. If you read the various articles online (there are many on many different sites), they will all say the same thing. There is science behind all of this. It's not people like me making it up.
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Old 11-20-2013, 05:40 PM   #28
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The qt / hospital tanks aren't that bad, especiallly if you are doing a hyposalinity treatment. Just take the water from your water change and add water until its at the right salinity then bingo. It's safe to change the water on a qt tank.

I do happen to agree with Todd on the ich problem.
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Old 11-20-2013, 05:47 PM   #29
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Plus, a QT can be set up for a relatively low cost. Grab a 10 or 15g tank when Petco does its "dollar a gallon" sale and get a small filter, a couple pieces of PVC from Home Depot and probably a heater (depending in where you live). You are probably under $50. Compare that to the cost of a fish or two that die from Ich (or something more deadly like Marine Velvet...that can wipe out an entire tank in a day or two). The expense pays off over time, almost guaranteed.
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Don't get me wrong guys im not taking away from what you guys are saying I'm just saying I have no other way of treatment right Now...ilk set up a qt in the future...a 5g kit from wm is like 30 bucks..
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