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Old 08-02-2004, 05:11 AM   #1
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What will work in place of live rock?

In my 75 gal i have lots of LR but when i get the new larger tank, i am not gonna want the LR anymore since the LR takes away from the niceness of the aquarium since it makes the aqurium look ugly. Then in the new tank i am just going to put alot of dead stony coral in there with the LS of course, but instead of the LR i am going to need another type of rock that is a good substitute for the LR. Just some type of dead or fake rock that is cheap, and wont get as ugly as the LR but that i can build ontop of and make holes and caves and then place the stony corals ontop of that. If any could tell me a good rock to use as a substitute, that would be great, thanks
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Old 08-02-2004, 07:51 AM   #2
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Re: What will work in place of live rock?

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In my 75 gal i have lots of LR but when i get the new larger tank, i am not gonna want the LR anymore since the LR takes away from the niceness of the aquarium since it makes the aqurium look ugly. Then in the new tank i am just going to put alot of dead stony coral in there with the LS of course, but instead of the LR i am going to need another type of rock that is a good substitute for the LR. Just some type of dead or fake rock that is cheap, and wont get as ugly as the LR but that i can build ontop of and make holes and caves and then place the stony corals ontop of that. If any could tell me a good rock to use as a substitute, that would be great, thanks
I live in Houston, but I'll bet you can find someone there in Florida to take that UGLY lr off your hands. 8O

You can either make your own rock or buy base rock from hirocks.com or get Carib Sea Reef Rock.

The Reef Rock would probably be most like what you are looking for, but I don't know if it won't eventually begin to look like lr.
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What exactly is it about your current rock that is ugly to you?
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Im curious about the live rock making the tank look bad concept. Do you have any photos of yoru tank?
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Old 08-02-2004, 10:23 AM   #5
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There are many types of LR available out there. They have different looks and styles. I think the benifits of LR outway the looks. I would try to find something acceptable before considering going rockless.
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Well what is the point of buying LR for my 240 gallon aquarium that i am upgrading to when my 75 gallon with LR is ugly as hell. The point of buying live rock is that it has live creatures blah blah blah helps filter the tank blah blah blah. You dont understand with my puffer and other fish, there is no point of having live rock. If i ever get another couple feather dusters or whatever, BAM! before you know it they are eaten by my fish. So basically with no creatures on the LR its dead, so whats the pt of buying more of it when my fish are going to kill all the live on it, making it dead. So i was thinking i could substitute something for the LR. Maybe sometype of lace coral or something, or that hawaiian coral that somebody posted would be nice. I also just want to buy dead white coral, like fans and branches to add in there with the rock. Bring out the color of the fish 8) Let me know what you think or if you just think im a complete idiot
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With the right lighting and tank conditions, coralline algae will give your tank a lot of color. Anything you put in there will eventually turn purple, pink, green etc. so adding anything else would be pointless, IMO.

I used to use bleach white dead coral and fake plants back in the old days. I don't like that look anymore. A big HOB filter would be needed though.
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The beneficial part of LR is what you cant see, not what you can. Any critters that are visible just add diversity to the ecosystem.

LR is full of beneficial bacteria that help break down ammonia much in the same way that biological filters like wet/drys do, only much more efficiently.

I would be wary of buying dead corals as decoration because I would want to promote their harvest for that reason.
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Bottom line is that its your tank and, therefore, you can do whatever you like. However, the main benifit of LR is that it harbors the growth of bacteria that reduce nitrates and nitrites. This is why people get LR. It is not for the feather dusters and crabs and stars or other "hitch hikers", people simply consider those a bonus. LR works great in aggressive tanks with triggers, groupers, puffers because they are messy eaters. Nitrates are ussually a problem in these tanks due to waste. You can certainly get by with out LR. If you have a sump under your tank, just put LR rubble in there. That way it is out of site but you still get the benifit of biological filtration.
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Agree with everyone above. Just want to add with you puffer, other fish and you are talking about a large angel, the bioload even with a large tank will be heavy as the fish mature. IMO the rock is the best way.
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