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Old 01-05-2004, 05:15 AM   #11
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The white dots are like 3D dots if u know what i mean, they stick out kinda like a cotton ball but very tiny ones. like the size of a full stop " . "
The white dot is not flat on her body.
she has been eating alot and yes she poops as well, big ones.
mayb i'm just being paranoid about her belly being kinda big i'm not sure.
This is what i found out about the product that i just purchased:

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CUPRAZIN (Protozoacide/Fungicide) :
For the treatment of Whitespot, Costia and other Fungal infections in seawater aquaria only. Do not use in aquaria containing invertebrates, macro algae, Sharks, Rays, or Harlequin Tuskfish.
Whitespot, Oodinium, Benedenia, Trichodina and fungal infections are amongst the fastest killing organisms and therefore, once recognised should be treated immediately. With this in mind you are advised, when unsure of an ailment's diagnostic background to automatically use CUPRAZIN as directed. CUPRAZIN'S formula is designed to be low stress-inducing, gradually increasing concentration to effective levels. Once this level is achieved addition of the product may be stopped. CUPRAZIN should be used to treat all newly purchased sea fishes except sharks, rays, Harlequin Tuskfish, invertebrates and other related species. In cases where these creatures are present use MYXAZIN or OCTOZIN as an alternative. CUPRAZIN should not be used in those systems which contain any invertebrates. This includes crustaceans.
Suitable for seawater and brackish water aquaria. Cuprazin should be used automatically to treat the protozoan/fungal disease in all-fish show aquaria or fish only quarantine aquaria. Cuprazin is totally harmless to filtration bacteria.


I check on the bottle and it doesn't say any other information couldn't find it it had nitrofurazone.

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The meds needed will also destroy you biological filter that keeps your NH3, NO2 and NO3 in check. Any copper based meds will kill all the fauna and prevent future additions of sessile and moblie inverts.
With the information i have given u about the product that i have purchased will this destroy the biological filter? will it be safe for me to use this product in my display tank?
If i set up a quarantine tank doesn't the tank need to have enough bacteria to break down ammonia, nitrite etc if i have a fish in there?

thank - you well much for ur help...i really appreciate it.

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Old 01-05-2004, 11:48 AM   #12
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The meds needed will also destroy you biological filter that keeps your NH3, NO2 and NO3 in check. Any copper based meds will kill all the fauna and prevent future additions of sessile and moblie inverts.
With the information i have given u about the product that i have purchased will this destroy the biological filter?
Wow, that was some serious typing. Great effort . To be honest, they are not very forthcoming on their product so I have sent Waterlife an e-mail to see if they will be a bit more specific. Until then, I would suggest that you be cautious with the Cuprazin as it reads much like a chelated copper med.


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will it be safe for me to use this product in my display tank?
I connot be sure but when in doubt, don't take the chance. I would still suggest a QT if treatment becomes neccessary. I have very strong doubts whether this product will do anything for the clowns since they sound like they have a fungus and not ich. No signs of excess boby slime, right?

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If i set up a quarantine tank doesn't the tank need to have enough bacteria to break down ammonia, nitrite etc if i have a fish in there?
As shown in the quarantine article, they are relatively easy and cheap to set up. When needed for emergency treatments (which I do not thinks yours is at the moment), filling the QT with water from the main tank ensures water parameters match and then you just need to ensure the temp is stable before the fish are transfered. Using a simple HOB filter or corner sponge filter, you can then take some media from your existing main tanks filter, wether that be bioballs, filter floss, carbon or the like. Just about anything disposable with a hard surface from the main tank will transfer the needed bacteria. The water will not though.

At this point though if fungus, you do not need to treat or QT as yet. I would first suggest a few 10-15% water changes a few times a week to get any amount of DOC down as low as possible and make sure the fish are fed with vitamin fortified foods. Adding Zoe, Selcon or the like to soak the foods in will greatly boost the fishs' immune system allowing them to fight this naturally. Most times if the tank water conditions are as optimal as possible and the fish's diet is properly fortified, lympho and fungus will clear up on it's own.

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Old 01-06-2004, 03:11 AM   #13
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Thanks so much steve, I'll get some Zoe or Selcon then and try that for the time being. Does garlic also help the immune system? The guy from the fish store recommended garlic.Is fungus contagious to other fish?
by the way what do you mean by "boby slime"?

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Does garlic also help the immune system? The guy from the fish store recommended garlic.
Garlic is a great antioxidant that I think many underestimate. I would not look to it as a sole cure but a great additive that can boost any treatments success. The ingredient allicin will also aid in parasite prevention (again not a cure) and help with bacterial/fungal problems.

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Yes and no. Once a fish enters the system with fungus (or lympho for that matter), the bacteria that caused the issue will come with it. Most healthy fish can easily resist the onset quite well and are normally not a concern. As I said, water changes and a bolstered diet will often clear things up without the use of a QT or meds unless severe.

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by the way what do you mean by "boby slime"?
It means I can't type to save my life.. LOL. I meant to spell Body Slime. Just trying to rule out brooklynella as a possible cause which one of the signs is excess milky slime exuding away from the fishs' body...

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hehe ur funny..wasn't gona ask ya what boby slime was...didn't want u to think i was that clueless about fish! hehe Thanks steve i'll give that a go with what u recomended.
U know the white spot has actually gone smaller...so hopefully things are lookin good.

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U know the white spot has actually gone smaller...so hopefully things are lookin good.
Great news!! Keep tabs on the fish and ensure nothing else arises and they should be fine.

FYI, Waterlife replied to my e-mail confirming the Cuprazin is a copper med. Make sure if you ever have need to use it in future, never use it in the display tank... only a QT.

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Im about to get my first fish Nemos, but ive been testing the water like a madwoman as they are my first marines and i dont want any fish till im sure the water is right. I will be cautious and look for blemishes though, also i am using a 30 litre tank. No problems so far 3 days till i put my fish in, i cant wait.
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Im about to get my first fish Nemos, but ive been testing the water like a madwoman as they are my first marines and i dont want any fish till im sure the water is right. I will be cautious and look for blemishes though,
Best way to ensure the fish will not be an issue for parasites or disease is to acclimate them to a proper quarantine tank for about 4 weeks before placing them in their permanent home. This will ensure you do not end up treating the main tank with something that could adversley affect the smooth operation of a healthy set up. Wild caught percs are especially prone to brooklynella hostillis. I realise their new home is on the smaller side but every effort to ensure success goes a long way.

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If a UK litre measurement (/4.5), I would only opt for one fish in that size tank as it will be too cramped for 2 percs to live comfortabley. Also be wary on using timelines to guage when additions can be made. As you've stated, you have done alot of testing so rather let those results be your guide to when the tank is ready. NH3 and NO2 should be zero and in a smaller volume, the lower the nitrates the better. Any additions of fish are sure to spike the numbers somewhat.

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Guess what guys? my nemo is fine! her spots are totally gone! yipee! i'm soo happy. Its funny because my nemos sleep s next to the power head of the water filter! they are soo cute! thanks for everything !!!!
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Guess what guys? my nemo is fine! her spots are totally gone! yipee! i'm soo happy.
Excellent!!

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