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Old 07-15-2008, 08:45 AM   #11
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It's been quite a while since I added NEW rock. I did a 15 - 20% water change and put new charcoal in on Sunday, a 30% wc yesterday and added ammonia detox, didn't feed them for over about 30 hours and still no change in the ammonia level!!
I use tap water and I know that's about the worst to use. I tested the tap water and it came out fine so no ammonia is in it. I have had a very healthy tank until now and actually no other fish is showing stress except the yellow tang.
I guess I have to do water changes every day until I can get it cleared. That seems more stressful to the whole tank though.
I am very frustrated!!
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I use tap water and I know that's about the worst to use. I tested the tap water and it came out fine so no ammonia is in it.
Most municipalities add ammonia to their water. I work for one so I know. Make up a batch of SW from your tap and let it set for 24-48 hours and then test it for ammonia. Take it to your LFS to test to be double sure.
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... a 30% wc yesterday and added ammonia detox, didn't feed them for over about 30 hours and still no change in the ammonia level!!...
When using those ammonia neutralizers, even after it's done its job you'll still get a reading for ammonia. It's just that the ammonia is in a non-toxic form, but still detectable from your test kit.
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Oh that's good to know. Thanks. I'm going to do another water change tonight and see what happens.
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Old 07-15-2008, 10:18 PM   #15
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Please dont use additives. Tap water cant be tested in 1 batch. It can and in many cases will add ammonia and nitrate and phosphate and other unwated elements in small amounts and collect over time making it hard to control. Then tap isnt consistant as you could get unfavorable high elements from one water change.
Then whene like now you have problems ruling the source out is best.

THen adding new LR that isnt cured can be very bad.
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So if the problem is my tap water, which I'm beginning to think it is, why not any additives? What other way can I neutralize the ammonia? Am I just adding fuel to the fire everytime I do a water change?
I also have a freshwater tank that doesn't show any ammonia and I use tap for that one too.
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Most of us use a RO/DI unit. This is the one I have but there are cheaper ones out there.

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I've used Amquel and NovAqua from Kordon fro conditioning tap water in the past. I now use a RODI unit exclusively, but use Amquel to neutralize items cleaned in chlorine.
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Additives arent relyable abd you cant test for all elements like copper or lead or pesticides. If you cant ever rule out the water source as your problem then it will be hard to controll any issue.
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