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Old 02-12-2011, 05:25 PM   #1
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Betta - Fin Loss? Fin Rot? Or Fin Nipping? Or is it something else!?

Ok So I am completely confused as to what is going on here. I have two male bettas in a divided tank. Apollo (My halfmoon) was experiencing fin loss really quickly! I left for dinner on the 2nd of December and came home and he had taken a big chunk out of his fin. I am so confused. I mean it happened so quick I assumed it was fin nipping. My other Fish was completely fine. Well I have been treating Apollo with API stress coat +aloe, to help mend his damaged fins. The damage keeps getting worse and worse and I have given up on getting it better. But I am still dosing with API Stress coat + aloe.

Well today I noticed that my other betta is experiencing fin loss also. I have not seen this in him either. I have had him longer too, so I know his behavior better.

The tank is cycled and heated. I don’t have a filter just yet. I didn’t want to get one because I was scared my fish might get sucked in and get hurt. So I settled for cleaning the tank every week. I pebble vacuum every other week and I do at least a 25% water change every week; promptly dosing with the API stress Coat + Aloe.
Both of the fish are behaving 100% normal. They both eat, are active and respond to me. So I don’t know what it is. I have checked all the décor and its all safe from what I can tell. So I am at a loss of what to do. Here are some pictures…
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Old 02-12-2011, 05:28 PM   #2
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This First Picture is of Rouge now - with his obvious fin problems. :C The second one is him a few months ago. All pretty and such...

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Here is Apollo Without and Fin damage, and the second one is how he is now...
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Old 02-12-2011, 05:31 PM   #4
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You definately have water quality issues -which translates into health issues - if you are only doing 25% PWC weekly and have no filter.

You didn't say how large this divided tank is, but you will need to do almost daily PWC and more than one gravel vac a week if you don't have a filter on the tank.

I really recommend you look into getting a filter, take the fish out and put in different but roomy containers until it cycles.

I've kept betta's in tanks with all types of filters for years and never once had one get its tail sucked up a filter, though some do like to cling to them.
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Its obvious something is happening... but I don't know what. :C
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Old 02-12-2011, 05:35 PM   #6
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Its is cycled. I have had it up and running for at least 8 months. Its a 10 gallon tank by the way. I just did what it said on the internet. It said to change the water once a week - 50 -25%. I can pick up a filter. I planned on it, I just haven't gotten one yet.
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You have no filtration whatsoever?

There is no way the tank is cycled without filtration.

This is the internet also, and I'm telling you the truth.

Bettas are tough fish and can put up with bad water conditions for a time, but without filtration that is properly cycled they eventually die much faster than they would if housed properly.
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Well than the interent is wrong. I have read in countless places that you don't have to have a filter for a betta. Also I have read that bacteria establishes itself in the rocks (Also the filter If you have one)

No I don't have a filter yet. I need to get one apparently.

So what do I do to solve this problem? Aside from buying a filter? or is that the problem. What should I be doing? How often should I be changing the water? How much?
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You don't have to, you don't have to eat right either to stay alive, do you? But you should.

There is a difference between living and surviving... Get a filter asap, help them live.
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I know I agree with you. I have just read from TONS of places that a filter is not needed with Bettas, I will get one as soon as I can. I thought it was optional. It sounded like it was. I had full plans of getting one.

So what can I do now? Cause I have no way of going to the store right now. Also Is one of those whisper filters ok? I have heard they work well for bettas. I don't have very much money right now.
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