Fancy goldfish

[yahooandgoogle]

Hi I have asked on her about my fish before.
I posted before about her floating belly up.
Well lately it has been happening more than normal.
I have tried peas and feeding small meals. My ammonia is 0 nitrite 0 ph 7.4 and my nitrates are between 5-10.

It strange because in the morning she is always swimming following the other fish. But by the afternoon she is in the top corner near the filter belly up. If you look at her she most times swims off. But she has been doing this more and more. It's horrible to see her like this. I got told from a fish expert it may be a birth defect. She is very round I think they doesn't help her when she swims. She swims side ways. She still eats her food and loves bloodworms. Is there anything I can do to help her? I don't want her to suffer. Anyone have problems with their fancy. I thought maybe it was low oxygen in my tank. But they have an air bubbler which is always on.

Would a vet help? Her belly is so round she looks like a golf ball size (not quite as big but)


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[MonkeyMonk86]

If looking for a vet. Google for aquarist vets, you could also call any vet that lists himself as exotics. Vet schools have almost no curricula regarding fish. ( My daughter is in last year of vet school)

I found this, skip to 3rd paragraph:
http://freshwater-aquariums.yoexper...n-see-upside-down-floating-goldfish-1409.html


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[yahooandgoogle]

Thanks you I will look into that thanks heaps


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[Roz]

Are you feeding peas everyday? I find I have to do that with my Black Moor to ensure he doesn't get SBD.

Also, what types of food do you feed at mealtimes? I don't think you should feed flakes. Try sinking pellets and a variety of other frozen meals such as brine shrimps and veggie dinner.


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[yahooandgoogle]

Hello I do give them a few peas everyday. They get fed a sinking pellet which is soaked fist. They also get bloodworms a few times a week.


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[mapexmac007]

I don't wish to be the bearer of unpleasant information, but she may be chronically inflicted with SBD. We had a beautiful Fan Tail who got SBD every four months or so. When she was dealing with it for a fourth time, peas didn't work, medicine worked to get her off of the surface, but within a day or two, she was stuck at the bottom with zero buoyancy or vertical control whatsoever.

We moved her to a hospital rehab tank, shallow with only 3 inches of water. Kept her in water which had a slight saline level to it, and over the course of five months, tried every medicine, vegetable, and diet remedy we could find. Nothing worked. Our hearts were broken, facing the prospect of having to do the inevitable.

She had a great appetite. She seemed to be "OK" in her disabled existence, but there was zero signs of buoyancy recovery. We eventually located some clove oil, and put her to sleep - tears and all...

I've come to learn that such a condition is a byproduct of the breeding which creates the golf ball-like body shape. And this body shape is prone to causing SBD. It's sad you're experiencing the same thing we just went through. I wish you the best in whatever outcome you choose.


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[yahooandgoogle]

Thank you for replying. I appreciate your help and that why I posted on here for help. The last three days now she has been really good she seems to go through bad phases of it and other times not so severe. Her stomach is huge like you said so round. She's such a beautiful fish. I am looking into getting a vet who specialise in fish to come to my house so I don't have to put her through the stress of catching her then the trip to the vets. But at the moment she is doing well but if the time comes I won't let her suffer.
Sorry to hear about your fish


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[yahooandgoogle]

Will wait and see what the vet says


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[mapexmac007]

I'm happy for you, that your fish does occasionally have good days. That would give me all sorts of hope for a full recovery. Sadly, our fan tail didn't show any signs of improvement, thus necessitating the action we took. I hope you can avoid that! Best of luck to you and your goldie!

 

[yahooandgoogle]

Thanks you. Sorry about your fantail. It's sad to see them floating and struggling. She's such a cool little fish she has been good for quite a few days now. But she still does it.


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[Matt68005]

Oh carp, i hope my red cap oranda doesent end up like this, found it upside down a few times, so far all i tried was an antibiotic. Its like they do it to themselves, always gulping air. So swim bladder disease is not just bacterial or fungal ?

 

[mapexmac007]

So swim bladder disease is not just bacterial or fungal ?

I'm not an "expert" Matt, I can only share what I've researched (extensively) online and gathered - but the breeding, over hundreds of years to get these fancies, has created some genetic mutations which are predisposed to SBD.

As in the canine world, certain breeds come with inherent problems; a direct result of their breeding. (queue banjo music and an erie Ozark setting... )

That said, our lovely fancy Goldies are PREDISPOSED to contracting SBD; it doesn't mean it's inevitable. With proper diet, and a very healthy environment, it can be completely avoided. It is, however, a razor's edge in maintaining a proper goldfish aquarium. As our resident expert (JLK) has pointed out on many threads - WC WC WC WC WC!!!

 

[yahooandgoogle]

I have found my fish has been a lot better since I have stopped feeding flakes as she was sucking in too much air. She is now fed blood worms and sinking pellets which are soaked before feeding. She also gets peas which have helped her heaps. Extra water changes have helped her also.



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