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Old 07-17-2014, 07:00 PM   #11
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Hi Roz, I was wondering if you have any experience using API Melafix or Pimafix? Our goldfish is doing so much better but his tail/ fins still have the off white splotches, I was thinking of using one or both of these to see if it helps but the reviews are very mixed on how goldfish react to it... I have also read that aquarium salt treatments might be beneficial. I have used salt treatments on other types of fish but not goldfish.... any thoughts on what the off white patches might be or what might help get rid of them?
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Old 07-17-2014, 07:07 PM   #12
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Hi Roz, I was wondering if you have any experience using API Melafix or Pimafix? Our goldfish is doing so much better but his tail/ fins still have the off white splotches, I was thinking of using one or both of these to see if it helps but the reviews are very mixed on how goldfish react to it... I have also read that aquarium salt treatments might be beneficial. I have used salt treatments on other types of fish but not goldfish.... any thoughts on what the off white patches might be or what might help get rid of them?

Hi there, I haven't used either. I have read that Melafix is basically useless for goldfish.

I think that if your little guy is recovering with lots of lovely fresh water, then I would just press on with that, and be patient that he will get better over time.

My goldfish Dennis, has a bruise/tear on his tail (I think Colin bumped him as he gets frazzled at meal times), and it is getting better with daily 80% water changes.

I think you are doing a fantastic job - I personally wouldn't add chemicals, but I'm no expert and just basing that advice on what I've read.

Would love to see another pic of how he is going


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Old 07-17-2014, 07:47 PM   #13
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Thanks Roz, I bought the API Melafix, Pimafix and Aquarium salt just in case but I think you are right, I hate medicating when not needed. I will just wait and keep doing water changes his buddy for the last 4-5 years is getting lonely and depressed in the 45 gal. without him , hope he gets completely better soon... lol all the red and white spots on his body are still gone, just need the strange off white patches on his tail/ fins to go away then he can move back into the reg. tank, I finally told my kids that he should make it, it is amazing how attached we have become to our fish..
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Hi Roz I am at a loss again, I put our goldfish back in with his buddy last night, they where very happy to see each other and acting like normal.... this morning I looked at them and the red streaks are now coming back on the tail of the Gold one that had been in the sick tank, I have no idea what might be causing this? The water parameters are the same in both tanks.... Same gravel, same filter, heat is 74-75, Amm. is at 0, nitrites are 0, nitrates are about 5-10 right now.... the only difference between the 2 tanks are that the 45 gal. has water sprite plants and I add Seachem's Flourish and Flourish excel. Have you had or heard of issues with these with Goldfish? it seems odd that they have never really had issues until I added the plants and the Seachem's....
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I'm sorry to hear that :-(

I'm not an expert, particularly with the different products on the market, and so what I'll suggest here is what I'd be trying myself:

You could do a 50% water change at the start of the day and another at night - i.e. replace all water and not add back the plant products. Then monitor how your little guys go. Perhaps they have a sensitivity towards the plant chemicals?

I know my goldfish weren't overjoyed when I changed from API water conditioner to Prime. They seem ok with it now, but they let their opinions be known at the time (LM sulked and the others gave me looks).

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Old 07-19-2014, 07:21 PM   #16
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Goldfish with bright Red and white spots- Help Please!

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Another goldfish being posted about at the moment has septicaemia - he has some of the same symptoms as your little guy (red patches and streaks), although I think your goldfish doesn't look as poorly.

You might follow that post to see whether you treat your fish in the same way.


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Old 07-19-2014, 07:42 PM   #17
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There's a very good chance you have a parasitic infection at work here. According to your posts, there was noticeable improvement after adding Quick Cure, then later on a relapse. Some parasites take much longer to eradicate than others. For example, egg-laying flukes take longer to eradicate than live-bearers. You might want to try Prazi, it's safe and gentle on the fish. Treat for a month to be sure you get rid of it. If you don't, it will just keep coming back.


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Thank you Tank girl/ Roz... Yes there was a great improvement when I had him in the sick tank, ( no plants, ect) just fresh water daily and the Mardel quick cure... all the red splotches on his body/fins disappeared within a day or two and most of the white spots disappeared as well. I did find out a few days ago that the heater temp (in the Reg. tank) was at the right temp but it had slightly melted the bottom suction cup, I cleaned it and it is back to normal but I am wondering if maybe the melted plastic leached something into the tank? with all the daily water changes I cant see how any plastic could be left but at this point I am trying to look at anything that could be causing these issues. I should also say that the 45 ga. tank ( The reg. tank) used use to be used for a gerbil along time ago. I did a lot of reading and cleaned/ heavily scrubbing the tank with both aquarium salt and vinegar repeatedly over a period of 3 weeks plus cut out all the old sealant and resealed the tank with aquarium sealant... maybe another source of contamination? We really love these little guys and if we have to buy another tank we will... NOTE: the other fantail goldfish/ tank mate is still acting/ eating like normal. When I put the Goldfish back into the reg. tank yesterday I also started using API Pimafix just in case, do you guys think I should move them both into the sick tank with the quick cure or leave them in the reg. tank and continue the Pimafix for the full treatment cycle?
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When you hear hoofbeats, think horses before you think zebras. It is very unlikely to be suction cups, gerbils or aquarium sealant.

Parasites are extremely common in fish. Healthy fish in a proper environment usually aren't bothered by a minimal presence of them. However, poor conditions allow them to proliferate. Overcrowding, infrequent/insufficient water changes, ammonia/nitrite/nitrate build up, etc., cause a lot of stress and will greatly impact a fish's ability to defend themselves.

I would treat both fish with Prazi in the main tank since they are together. The fish that seems fine is the simply the stronger one, but it has been exposed nonetheless. Pimafix won't do anything for parasites. Sometimes fish get secondary bacterial or fungal infections from the damage caused by parasites, so you may want to pick up a medication such as Kanaplex in case they need it.


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