Please help!!

[blackblueangel]

My newly mommy fish one eye is swollen and has white around it. i tested water everything came back clear everything is were its suppose to be. Could she have ick

 

[SpaceFish42]

Could you please post a picture? It would help a lot.

 

[blackblueangel]

How do i do that? sry still new to this I'm using my phone.

 

[coralbandit]

probably not ich being around the eye.
Most likely bacterial IMO.
"Everything came back clear everything is were it is supposed to be"means little to me especially from a newb!(nothing personal).
Real numbers will help and the type of test you use(liquid/strips)?

 

[blackblueangel]

The pet store were i got the fish said it sounds like pop eye. i tryed getting a pic but she hiding

 

[coralbandit]

Pop eye is bacterial and pretty hard to treat.
It seems to re occur until the fishes demise IMO.
Popeye in Fish
Bacterial infections | The Skeptical Aquarist

 

[blackblueangel]

Great. they also said there's possible a change my other fish n babies will get it

 

[coralbandit]

IMO popeye is not contagious.
It is (again IMO) like dropsy and more a symptom of some bacterial issue.
Sometimes even though the pathogen is in the whole tank only certain(weaker,older,stressed) fish will get it and others remain unaffected.
What is your matainance habit(water changes)
How much how often (tank size also please).

 

[blackblueangel]

Its a 20 long tank i plan on cleaning it out on my day off. will the babies get it? i have like 16babes i think. I read somewhere that aquarium salt could help with Popeyes

 

[coralbandit]

Read the links I posted.
If you have not changed water lately then do 20%(4 gallons) 3-4 times THIS week and then you can get on weekly changes that are larger.
If you have not been up on water changes then starting slow to let the fish acclimate to "good" water again is best advice I can give.
I really do not believe popeye is contagious.
Your water parameters are effecting ALL of your fish ,but are some still stronger and healthier then others(for now).

 

[blackblueangel]

Thank you for you're help

 

[Matt68005]

For what it's worth I agree with coral 100% you should be changing 50% of the water once a week in small tanks like 10s and 20s. The advice to change 15% every two weeks is really meant for large aquariums.

 

[blackblueangel]

I have not change the water yet bc I've only had my fish for a week and the one that's sick i got her on Friday. She must of already been sick at the pet store. i was told not to change the water for a while . But now i have to so she will get better.

 

[Matt68005]

So you don't know about the nitrogen cycle? Its pretty basic fishkeeping. You HAVE to change the water in a fishtank, or ammonia builds up in a new "uncycled" aquarium and it will kill your fish quickly. Read up about the nitrogen cycle.

 

[blackblueangel]

My sick fish i better her eye is all cleared up. i used aquarium salt and qick cure ick.

 

[SpaceFish42]

Yay! I'm glad she's better.

 

[blackblueangel]

I tested my water for everything! All reading are were they are suppose to be for my fish and i just change the water on Wednesday n do weekly water test.

 

[blackblueangel]

Thank you spacefish42. i am too. n so everyone know i just started on having fish its only had fish into for two weeks now. i take very great care of my fish.

 

[ImACoolguy]

So you don't know about the nitrogen cycle? Its pretty basic fishkeeping. You HAVE to change the water in a fishtank, or ammonia builds up in a new "uncycled" aquarium and it will kill your fish quickly. Read up about the nitrogen cycle.

what Matt is saying is, your water conditions will deteriorate very fast if you did not cycle the tank prior to getting fish.

I typed this guide up for social media and keep it handy for people why don't know about the Nitrogen Cycle.

It covers about everything in cycling a tank:

Good evening everyone! This afternoon I'm going to tell everyone everything you need to know about cycling in the simplest way possible so everyone can understand! Still got a question? Leave a comment! This is likely to be very long and run into the comments so please bear with me it took a long time to make this. You can refer to the picture above for reference as well. If you know someone who doesn't know about or understand cycling please tag them!

What is cycling? Cycling is short the Nitrogen Cycle. Basically, bacteria live in your tank, they are what consumes waste so it doesn't become toxic and harm your fish. But your filter does not just "come with bacteria" right out of the box! This is where cycling comes in.

Why is cycling important? Many people have said "well I didn't cycle and my fish are just fine!" Well that's because most of those people have very hardy fish like bettas, guppies, etc, they can rough it through a cycle without issue.

Where does bacteria live? Let's make this really simple: 97%=filter 2%=substrate 1% water, decor, and plants. Basically, your filter is the home of all the bacteria you care about.

Where does bacteria come from and how do I grow it? This is the miracle of nature and science. I can't tell you specifically "where" bacteria comes from, only because I don't know. What I do now is how to grow bacteria, otherwise known is cycling a tank.

What you need to cycle a tank:
1. LIQUID test kit- I will stress this till the day I die. Test strips are junk. Liquid looks expensive but in reality you save a bunch of money because it can do 200+ tests for $10 more than a 25 pack of strips. I mean who wouldn't snag that deal?? You MUST have a test kit that you can get actual numbers from or else cycling will be near impossible without trips to the store for them to do it.

2. An ammonia source. This can be produced in a variety of ways. Fish obviously is the first method, this is the path of FISH-IN cycling. Simple right? Other sources include 10% grade ammonia from the hardware store, this is only a couple bucks. You can use uncooked shrimp from the grocery store and put it in a pantyhose so it doesn't make a mess. Or plain fish food is fine too but not as effective sometimes. These sources are used for a FISHLESS cycle.

Why do we need an ammonia source? This is what begins cycling. Ammonia is what feeds your bacteria to where they can reproduce and allows you to continue through the nitrogen cycle.

Enough questions let's get on with it:

Fishless cycling: this is really easy method, but you have an empty tank. On the flip side, you can do whatever adjustments you want to it so when you get fish it's perfect. If you are dosing ammonia by the bottle: shoot for 3ppm-4ppm. Google can provide a dosing calculator so you can know just how much to dose for your tank size. If you are using a table shrimp, just throw it in, it will naturally boost the ammonia and you just add a new shrimp when the other has decomposed. Now you want to use your test kit to measure how much ammonia you need to dose, it's simple math once you know how much makes 3ppm.

Fish-in cycling: This is where it can get tricky. Because you have fish you need to keep them safe. During a cycle, this will require daily testing and quite possibly daily water changes. You want to keep ammonia under 1ppm and nitrite under 0.50ppm if possible as both are highly toxic to fish.

Both cycles: in the beginning you will see ammonia start to rise, over time, the bacteria will overcome this and in a fishless you will need to start dosing daily(bottled ammonia) as time goes on. From there you will move to nitrites. Once you hit nitrites this is the longest phase. One day you will wake up and nitrites will be gone and you will be left with nitrAtes. Nitrates is the final product of the nitrogen cycle and is non toxic in lower levels. This is then removed through your weekly water changes.

Once the cycle is completed you should not see any signs on ammonia and nitrites, because now your tank is cycled.

Bacterial supplements: please understand these are a game of chance. They don't always work, sometimes they do nothing. Just know, I have NEVER seen one of these fully complete a cycle, only give a jump start. Please keep that in mind that just because you dump a bottle in doesn't mean your tank cycled..


Caleb

 

[blackblueangel]

Thank you for the information very helpful and i have liquid test not strips