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Old 09-26-2014, 11:46 PM   #11
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http://www.torrens.org.uk/NatHist/Aqua/disease/tb.html


That talks about tb. The list of fish most likely to get it don't include guppies. And it talks about wafting away and black spots.


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well took your advise and looked up columnaris, the photos look just like the one that i saw it on... so now i am going to read up on it and see if there is anything i can do to save some of fish.
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Old 09-26-2014, 11:48 PM   #12
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I know your in quite the situation, but I'd like you to help me out here. Have you added any new fish since your first deaths ? When your filter quit, did you use the old media from the old filter or all new stuff ? Did you add any new fish since then ? In your first post you listed ammo at 0 and nitrates and nitrites at 0 and 20. Is it possibly that you mixed these two up, as it should be the opposite. Also, now that you've got a new heater, what's the temp ? Also, what's the most fish that you've had at one time all at once, and how many are there now ?


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Old 09-26-2014, 11:50 PM   #13
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Columnaris would definitely need antibiotics. Gram negative I believe- but I would double check.


It's often because of bad water parameters and/or being over stocked from what I have read. Or it might have came in with a new fish


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Old 09-27-2014, 12:34 AM   #14
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Angela, what is it with you and fish TB? That is very rare, but everytime i read one of your post your telling people its fish TB?
This is a flexibacter columnaris infections and she probebly would be better off tearing everything down and cleaning it and starting over.
In the future have PROPER medicine on hand to treat this, i love guppies and i can help you amy. You need a few meds on hand with guppies. I would rather tell them to you in a PM than post something here for others to argue about, but ill give you the quick version. basically you need something called "Rid Ich Plus" which will control fungus and parasites, if you cant find that look for something called "Fungus cure" which will have listed on the ingredients Nitrofurazone, an antibiotic/antimicrobial (fungus/mold) Then your gonna go look at a fish store for an antibiotic called Kanamycin, or "kanaplex". Now i know people are gonna say 'hes just telling you to buy a bunch of chemicals" but by looking at your fish, their being eatin alive by bacteria and its very stubborn and hard to get rid of, so their as good as dead, get the 3 meds for the next fish you get, so if it comes back, as it probably will with new pet store fish, you will be prepared.
Kanaplex- Antibiotic
Rid Ich plus- parasites/fungal
Fungus Cure/Nitrofurazone- Antimicrobal/mold/fungus

Without certain meds you just cannot raise fish. people that advise others about water quality so much they just end up confusing them and im getting a little tired of it. The only thing you need to worry about water wise is ammonia and temperature, the other things like GH KH nitrates, they will be fine and adapt to your water, theres really no point of doing anything other than PWC too keep ammonia low and bioload not to high, not too low.
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Old 09-27-2014, 01:04 AM   #15
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Me? I've never suggest fish TB. She had mentioned it and I was telling her I didn't think it was fish tb. I in fact told her that I thought it was columnaris


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Old 09-27-2014, 01:09 AM   #16
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Also... Please let me know where I have posted suggesting TB. I think you are mixing me up with someone else


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Old 09-27-2014, 09:51 AM   #17
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Ok back to OP, what do you suggest or feel is the better option for me in this situation? I'm getting ready to move the fish in a bucket and break the tank down.


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Old 09-27-2014, 10:41 AM   #18
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Well, your endlers are supposed to look gray where they have no color. Just wanted to point that out. But I agree with the meds and you could raise the temperature to like 82-85 degrees Fahrenheit


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I have raised the temp is at 82F, you know the area where the male endless have the metallic color, we'll that has faded substantially. Where the tail fin was clear and green stripe at the top and bottom it is now all clear, the metallic has become very full and light, no longer shiny and vibrant. I agree with the female yup can't tell. Another example I had a sunshine yellow guppy who's body is extremely light and the tail fin is now pastel not bright sun shine like. I'm really at a loss and not sure of the best way to handle this. As I approach the end of the medication cycle and still see no improvement. Just a bunch of blah stagnant fish, with the exception right before they die they swim super fast and crazy. My Cory's we're swimming in the middle super fast soon before they died, that's odd behavior. Right?


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It is, and I would recommend some aquarium salt. I use that to treat my guppies when they get sick


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