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Old 08-23-2004, 11:46 AM   #11
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The first is debatable, a manual levels adjustment would have done a better job, IMO, but for a one click deal, it did an outstanding job. Just be careful, autolevels can give unpredictable results at times. The second photo...only the photographer can say, my problem with autolevels is it has a tendency to clip the histogram, both the first and the second seem to be clipped to the right. IMO, the third photo has more realistic colors in the original.
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i like what it did for the bee and the background on the purple one but the overall color was more correct to what i saw in the original the rose you made it really pop seemed to sharpen it up and bring more detail to it somehow the yellow one i do not know how i feel about that one the more i look at it the less i like it either version really it is not the flower itself i don't like but the colors of the background i think if i had a knack for that program i would try to get that purple weed with the flower colors the original way but the green the green you came up with i think that would be about perfect thanks for the demo i have been trying to do less with editing programs as i have a tendency to over edit until i have mush
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my problem with autolevels is it has a tendency to clip the histogram, both the first and the second seem to be clipped to the right. IMO,
could you please explain what you said here sorry so much to learn
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Old 08-23-2004, 01:09 PM   #14
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Your histogram represents the luminous distrobution in the photo, the left side is blacks (shadows) and the right side is whites (highlights). Clipping means the edge of the histogram comes right up the the edge and beyond to one side or both. You'll see the histogram start to climb the side of the histo box. I will routinely clip the blacks slightly to add contrast, but clipping the whites = blown highlights with no detail.
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Old 08-23-2004, 01:17 PM   #15
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The first is debatable, a manual levels adjustment would have done a better job, IMO, but for a one click deal, it did an outstanding job.
Hi rr. No doubt - but I wasn't interested in spending more than 10 seconds on someone else's work - when I can't even get to my own. I was just trying to demonstrate that 10 seconds and knowledge of only one auto adjustment, 9 out of 10 times will improve an image. I disagree on photo #3. The original has way too much magenta, as did all three in fact, IMO. There are also monitor calibration issues - but let's not go there. - Frank/Guppyman®
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This is certainly true, but I calibrate my monitor about once per week
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This is certainly true, but I calibrate my monitor about once per week
Well, I'll guess you know that you and I are probably the only two people on the planet that does THAT every week. I have a worse problem. I use a dual monitor set-up and no matter how I calibrate them, they are very different when viewing the same image. It drives me nuts!!! - Frank/Guppyman®
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i have been trying to do less with editing programs as i have a tendency to over edit until i have mush - Quote edited by Guppyman®
I agree. That's why I use the "Auto Adjust." The program is more adaept at the corrections then I will ever be. The more I futz with an image - generally the worse it gets. Less is usually more. - Frank/Guppyman®
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I use a dual monitor set-up and no matter how I calibrate them, they are very different when viewing the same image. It drives me nuts!!!
Ah, but I bet it drives home how significantly different a photo can look from one monitor to the next, even calibrated the same by the same person

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This is so true, unless you are a graphic artist that really knows the ins and outs of photoshop or the like, less editing usually equals better photos
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wow thank you rr at least i understand what you said now i think the monitor thing is a valid thing to bring up i do now what prints for me is different than what i see on my monitor also have done the calibration thing online do not know how much that really helps and guppyman the 10 min you took on the photos was well worth it really brought some good things up i thank you for that 8)
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