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Old 03-25-2006, 12:04 AM   #1
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Unknown cichlid - please help identify

Got this guy/gal on the 12th and never figured out what it is. I think it may be of the Vieja genus. It was more black (sort of striped with grey as well) at the store but in my tank it's turned to this mainly greyish color. It is quite aggressive. Anyone seen these before and/or know the species?
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Old 03-25-2006, 07:23 AM   #2
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I almost want to say that's a Texas cichlid, but not 100% sure.
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Old 03-25-2006, 12:17 PM   #3
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Nope, it's not one of those but thanks for the reply.
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Think you can get a better photo?...One without so much glare. Cichlids are hard to ID without seeing their scale patterns and colors. Try taking the photo without the tank lights on or without a flash. Cover the flash if you cannot deactivate it. Take the shot at an angle too. That will divert some of the flash back away from the main subject of the photo which can be easily cropped out. If the photos are a bit dark, it can still be manipulated to see patterns.
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Old 03-25-2006, 09:49 PM   #5
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Ok, I think I'll try that tomorrow. thanks
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I did break out with the huge FW atlas. The one splotch near the base of the tail is distinctive and found three species that bear a similar splotch (with or without other significant markings). All three are cichlasoma and are...

synspilus...red headed cichlid
temporalis, though very ???
guttulatum...gold cheek cichlid...this one appears to be the closest match.

I'll be able to be more sure with a more detailed photo of patterns (like other bars on the body)
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Well, I tried. These are the best I got :
He darkened up a little, not as dark as in the store though. You can see the stripes better now, you can see he also has some stripes on the head.

You can somewhat see the green and blue in the fins in this one, there's also a little red. The gill is kinda open in this pic for some reason, which kind of gives off that he has a lot of red in that area but its not that much.


This one is pretty dark and I don't know how to make it look better. You have some kind of good image editing program?
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Ah...much better photos even if the photo itself isn't the best. I'll download these to my computer and seek through the atlas in a bit. Gotta deal with dinner now...mmmm...I'm hungry too...LOL.

The number of bars of the striping on cichlids is a big factor when it comes to identifying them. You can have two fish that look identical to each other and if one has more or less bars, they (those who put these names to them) end up naming them a different species. Pain in the *** if you ask me...they're still practically the same **** fish...LOL.
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BTW...the graphics software I use is Paint Shop Pro 8. I'm on the verge of getting the new version (10). I should have had it already. I'm lagging here...LOL.
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i think it may be a wierd variation of a convict?
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