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Old 11-20-2006, 01:22 AM   #11
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Wow that looks really good! Very impressed. Now I'm really considering this type of lighting. It's about 1/5 of what I was looking to spend! Even if I have to replace the bulbs regularly that's fine with me.

Could of sworn I read someplace that overdriving bulbs could lead to fire problems. Must of misread it.

I just hope I can find those 6500k bulbs in 36".

For the reflector I'm not sure what I'll do. Maybe order one from AH Supply since those things rock. I'm using their 1x36w kit and just love it (wallet sure didn't!).

Do you have any pictures of the lights and how you have them mounted?
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You would only have to replace the bulbs every 6 months and the bulbs only cost 6 bucks!

I know they sell 'aquarium' bulbs that are 36", but I did not look to see what the K value was.

I am in the process of making a light for the 28 gallon tank and I am using flashing. 10" by 10' flashing was only 6 bucks at HD. It is a very good reflector, but not as good as one you would purchase from coralife.

I can post pics of it if you would like.
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Old 11-20-2006, 01:36 AM   #13
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Please do if it isn't too much trouble.

Didn't even consider flashing. Man I need to write this stuff down for my trip to Home Depot tomorrow. Just going to price stuff and see whats available in my area. What my HD has the one near my parents doesn't (go figure).

At $6 each I can deal with that. $24 a year is better than replacing a $32 bulb plus shipping. Another good thing is I don't have to worry about electricty costs either. Energy savings? Forget about it!

I won't be able to reply until tomorrow (technically later today). Need to get up at 6:30 for class. Ugh...last class before break!

I appreciate all the help. Looking forward to chatting again and I hope this thread gives some other people another option.
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The first pic shows the shoplights that have the sunpark SL-15 ballast that you would need to overdrive your lights with. The box is grey and white and the part number is 732-334. (The only thing missing from this picture, that will be putting 4WPG over my 28 gallon aquarium, is some nails and paint!)

The next pic is what is looks like right after I removed the ballast from the shoplight. 3 screws is all it takes.

The last pic is just my homemade reflector from that flashing. It's better then nothing.

You want cheap. Two shoplights - 16 bucks, flashing - 6 bucks, bulbs - 12 bucks max for two. Total 34 dollars and you don't have to pay shipping. That and anytime you feel like adding some more light, off to HD you go.

I currently have 7 shoplight ballasts running on different aquariums. You just can't beat the price. Some of them are running on nice well built strip-light fixtures and some on just shoplights.
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Very nice. After reading the article the whole thing looks pretty straight forward, although expect a PM with me yelling about something.

Do the end caps on those just attach with a screw or two? Still trying to visualize everything in my head.

It looks like they do make a 36" 6500k bulb (if this is the correct style/type I need): http://www.lightbulbsdirect.com/page...ROD/T8/F30T8-D

Even if it cuts the life of the bulb in 1/3, that's still about 200 days with those.
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Thats the type of bulb, Yes.

As for the end caps, in the shoplight they are clipped in. Once you unscrew the shoplight cover to take out the ballast, they just fall out. The end caps have a slot for screws so you can mount them as you need to. The hard part is getting the wires out of the end cap sockets. But since I have done this so many times, I have come to terms with it. All you have to do is insert a safety pin into the socket that is holding the wire and the wire will pull right out.

All and all a very easy mode and very cost effective, but please remember, we are dealing with 110 volts of electricity.
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All and all a very easy mode and very cost effective, but please remember, we are dealing with 110 volts of electricity.
That's where dad comes in handy. We put together my AH Supply kit without any real problems, except how much wire to leave. He's done a decent bit of electrical wiring so I'm sure we can figure this out.

Well I thank you for all your help. If I have any questions this week I'll try to get in touch.

Have a good Thanksgiving. Friday is going to be fun
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i made a light for my 20 gal tall tank using t-8's. i dont like the idea of running overdrive casue of heat and bulb life.u can get alot of light using t-8's without the additional heat and bulb life. u could do a 4X 36" t-8(i think its 25 watts a bulb at 36") and be getting 100 watts of t-8 over the tank. if at anytime u wanted to make this more u could overdrive by buying a second ballast. still a very cheap method and givs u all the light u need. here is the link....
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i made a light for my 20 gal tall tank using t-8's. i dont like the idea of running overdrive casue of heat and bulb life.u can get alot of light using t-8's without the additional heat and bulb life. u could do a 4X 36" t-8(i think its 25 watts a bulb at 36") and be getting 100 watts of t-8 over the tank. if at anytime u wanted to make this more u could overdrive by buying a second ballast. still a very cheap method and givs u all the light u need. here is the link....
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What heat? I am running all ODNO bulbs with no forced air circulation laying right on top of my tank. (you want heat look into HO t-5's or CF lighting)

I do understand that there may not be a need to overdrive the bulbs if you have the room (4 bulbs take up a lot more room then 2 bulbs), but everything I have mentioned still stands. Then just don't run two bulbs run four. The ballasts are still the same, the end caps are still the same, the shoplights are still the same, the everything is still the same, but now it costs you more up front, but in the long run it saves you more, Plus you are putting more light into the take. (I failed to mention that option mr funktastic, thanks)

Calculation time.

ODNO or 2 bulbs: 2 x 30 x 1.7 (ODNO) x 1.4 (t-8 vs t-12 light output) / 40 = 3.57 WPG lumen output.

Without ODNO or 4 bulbs 4 x 30 x 1.4 (t-8 vs t-12 light output) / 40 = 4.2 WPG lumen output

Same parts, but with two more bulbs and twice as much space. You should never have the need to up the lighting from 4.2 WPG.
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I went to Home Depot today and they only had one type of 36" bulb, cool white. Probably had 50 or so of the $8 fixtures so that's a good sign. Only 36" fixture was $24 so I'll be hacking the 48" version down to size.

Didn't buy them today because I can get them at my parents when I visit for the week. 48" fixtures won't fit in a Neon with a large cat carrier, clothes, and a 40g breeder tank.
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