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Old 07-03-2004, 02:47 PM   #1
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Boxters sump

As most of you may know about Boxters 180G in-wall project, he has asked me to build him a custom acrylic sump. Here is a rough design that I am posting for critique. Again keep in mind this is a very rough fast sketch.

Here are his goals:

-External skimmer sits off to the left of diagram fed via bulkheads
-Have the return chamber large to maintain a uniform waterlevel. (thus inside baffles are 1" lower that the outside intake chamber baffles.
-Have return pump centered on tank to avoid varying head heights which would change flow on one side or the other.

The total capacity as designed is approx 53 Gallons with an optimal running capacity of about 43-45 Gallons. Construction is planned to be of 3/8" cell cast acrylic. With what many baffles stuctural integrity is not an issue. However, at the moment the issue of deciding to use a euro-style bracing acros the top has come up. Needed? *shrugs* Looking for input. I have even considered using strips for a little additional support or even using 1/4" euro style bracing to reduce material cost.

Also, I may include an optional rack system in the sump for frags as Bok has inquired about it and intends to light the fuge well with PC lights.

Thoughts, Comments, or otherwise?
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Old 07-04-2004, 09:36 AM   #2
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Shameless bump......any takers?
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Old 07-04-2004, 03:08 PM   #3
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Boy. Wish I could say something. Not terribly familiar with building sumps. But I'll bump you up, too. The sketch *looks* great!
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Thanks!
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I think the slow response is just because of the holiday

IMO, 3/8" seems like overkill if you consider the number and placement of the baffles. I would imagine 1/4" would be more than enough, and going from 3/8" to 1/4" should save you a bit in cost already right?

Other than that, I think this is a sound plan.
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Yeah I considered using 1/4" but with the difference in cost being less than $40, in good concience I could not go less than 3/8". If it were mine sure, but someone elses... Thanks for the comments. I have never built a sump for an external skimmer, so I am still researching that. I think one bulkead out the left side will be fine and plumb the skimmer return over the side. We'll see. Still waiting on input and a response from bok.

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i have my sump out of 1/4 acrylic and it is 15Hx20Wx40L and i have a similar baffle system and there is no flex at all in mine, i think the 1/4" will be very sufficient. have the shop make all the cuts for you and i used lots of books and wood blocks to "glue", you are actually fusing it, together.
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I have all the appropriate tools for the job as I have built several in the past. I am aware 1/4 would be sufficient as all of my previous sumps have been 1/4 But this holding over 50 Gallons of water at 48" length, I wont chance it when it comes to someone elses flood. My concern if for the design, not the how to. Thanks again all. Keep 'em coming.

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Ronnie: Thanks so much for putting your time on this. The drawing looks good. I have the same thoughts on the 3/8". I guess the goal is to make the whole sump with 1 sheet of Acrylics. Personally, I prefer the Eurobrace, but really depends on the Acrylics left.

I am also thinking that maybe the skimmer output should be feed directly into the 2nd compartment (LR section). In this case, less skim water will be skim again. May not be a big deal, but what do you guys think?

The other things is that if something bad happened in my refugium, is there a way to disconnect it from the return chamber? I will have a ball valve at the Refugium intake.

Thanks for all the input again.
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is there a way to disconnect it from the return chamber? I will have a ball valve at the Refugium intake.
You could place a T just before that ball valve, and have that branch of the T go through another ball valve and plumb it directly into the Return section of the Sump. This way if you want to bypass your fuge you open the second T (to the return section) and close the First (to the fuge) and you've bypassed it. Just note that the additional elbows in the PVC will reduce flow some, but hopefully your plumbed for well over your actual flow anyway to it should't be an issue?
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