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Old 06-15-2010, 12:33 PM   #11
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#1 problem is with the returns placed low in the tank. In a power outage the water will drain from the main tank to the sump until the siphon is broken. That happens when air enters the return pipe and stops the water from draining.

Therfore you returns need to be just below the surface of the tank.
What you are trying to do is called a closed loop. That does not drain to a sump, but is plumbed directly to a pump. So even if the pump fails the water has no place to go. You also want valves on both sides of the pump so you have minimal spillage if the pump ever needs to be serviced (annually) or replaced.

I also would go with one sump a bit larger and maybe a seperate refugium.
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Old 06-15-2010, 06:05 PM   #12
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so...my intake and my return lines are both towards the surface...so when I see water coming into a tank from the bottom, it's most likely a closed loop?

Ok, think I've got it. If I have a sump plus a closed loop, I'll need two separate pumps. I'll google "closed loop" and redo the drawings.

And now I'm leaning towards the one sump. Since I'm having my wall reframed anyway (it's a load bearing wall), I'll just make sure that I have a big enough opening for one sump instead of the two smaller ones.

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I had a 50 gallon AGA on my system that i had my LFS order, it was 36x18x18. Worked awesome as a sump.

Also, how are you planning on accessing the sump/equipment? Maybe i missed it in your drawings.
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Old 06-15-2010, 06:21 PM   #14
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I had a 50 gallon AGA on my system that i had my LFS order, it was 36x18x18. Worked awesome as a sump.

Also, how are you planning on accessing the sump/equipment? Maybe i missed it in your drawings.
Was that a specail order is that a common size?
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Old 06-15-2010, 06:30 PM   #15
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All glass aquarium makes them, so its not a custom order, but most places dont choose to carry it as an item. Any store that sells AGA should be able to get one with their next shipment at no additional cost.

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http://www.aqueonproducts.com/produc...-aquariums.htm
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Good to know, thank you
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I'm working on the redesign of the sump/refugium...do I want the skimmer at the beginning of the process...middle...end? I've seen them just about everywhere so I'm not sure where it's best use is.

I'm working at the shirt shop today so I'll not get to plan on paper but I know this is pretty much all I'm gonna think about I'm starting to hear echoes in my head, lol. My friends are sick of hearing my fish stories
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You want the skimmer before the refugium. You don't want to skim out the pods. Google Melev's Reef. There are in-depth explanations of various sump designs and their respective pros and cons.
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Thanks BigJim, I'm checking out Melev's Reef now (lots of reading), very interesting site. I even found out what the unidentified worms are in my tank from their Visual ID Page

I did some rearranging to the line layout and added a couple things that I know I want my system to have.

If anyone sees anything wrong with this, please point it out.

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What type of skimmer takes a direct intake line?
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