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Old 01-15-2013, 04:37 AM   #11
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First of all, how big should the sump be for a 55 gallon? Secondly, how many gallons should be going through it per hour?
Another question, my tank sits in my living room, and there is a closet door that is about 5 inches from the right side of the tank. I was thinking of putting the sump inside of this closet (Ill post pics to help clarify). Would that be ok?
What size pipe would I need to get the right gallons per hour for my overflow?


Ps here is a link to the overflow I was talking about http://www.google.com/url?q=http://w...IcUzjyybn4s7nA
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Old 01-15-2013, 12:26 PM   #12
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I think the fact that you have an available closet behind your tank (if you are willing to go through the wall) allows for you to have just about any type of diy filtration and you are not limited to the space under your tank. With all that space think big.

I think, in your case, with the closet being behind the tank, a DIY canister/sump combo would be a better bet than a tyical sump. You can make yourself a canister with 2 large sotrage totes or container (you can go pretty big, 40 gallons or so, so a 50% increase in the water capacity of your tank when accounting for filter media), corrugated hosing from a pool supply store, filter media, return pump.

Set the tote up with three or four chambers of sizes that you prefer custom fit to your media. Create chamber walls by cutting pieces of pvc from one of the totes and using pvc cement (approved for drinking water) to fuse the newly cut walls inside the "canister" tote. Leave a few inches of space from the top of the dividers for water to overflow into another chamber. Fill the first chamber with mechanical media (tons of pot scubbies works well here). Fill the second chamber with more of a fine material like poly-fill or a roll of batting. Leave another chamber for any chemical filtration you desire. Then the return chamber with the return pump where filtered water can collect and be pumped out of the canister.

Set it up just like you would a regular canister filter, with a siphon vacuum out the top of the tank, down the outflow hose about 12-18". You can then do a 90 turn to run straight through the wall into the closet and then another 90 turn straight down into the canister. Make sure the total fall of the water is 3x the length of the horizontal run through the wall.

Drill a bulkhead in the lid to the tote over the chaimber filled with coarse mechanical media. Let the hose run all the way through the bulkhead to within a couple inches of the bottom so the water has to fill up through the media and overflow into the next chaimber.

I think you get the idea and I'm sure there are some pretty important technicalities to this that need to be addressed. But if something like this interests you then I'm sure it can be set up to work right and well.
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Old 01-15-2013, 02:28 PM   #13
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First of all, how big should the sump be for a 55 gallon? Secondly, how many gallons should be going through it per hour?
Another question, my tank sits in my living room, and there is a closet door that is about 5 inches from the right side of the tank. I was thinking of putting the sump inside of this closet (Ill post pics to help clarify). Would that be ok?
What size pipe would I need to get the right gallons per hour for my overflow?

Ps here is a link to the overflow I was talking about http://www.google.com/url?q=http://w...IcUzjyybn4s7nA
Well as for sumps bigger the better no smaller than 20 gallons as for the closet that would be ok but be awhere of condensation. as for pipe 2inch out 1 inch in is the norm for that size tank. 165 gallon ph pump to turn the tank over 3 times an hour
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:41 PM   #14
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Thank you so much! This is exactly what i needed. However, we rent our home and are unable to drill holes in the walls.. I drew out a plan so i could have the overflow on the left, and return coming in on the right (next to the closet door). I did this to save money on buying a return pump to go through all the turns. Would this even be possible or would it reduce the flow of the "overflow" too much? ill try to post a pic.
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:51 PM   #15
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However i also like to turn my tanks over at 10x let alone 3x. I will settle for around 6x in a sump though.
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:05 PM   #16
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Thank you so much! This is exactly what i needed. However, we rent our home and are unable to drill holes in the walls.. I drew out a plan so i could have the overflow on the left, and return coming in on the right (next to the closet door). I did this to save money on buying a return pump to go through all the turns. Would this even be possible or would it reduce the flow of the "overflow" too much? ill try to post a pic.
I don't under stand what you mean by saving money on return pump sorry as for flow it depends on the fish you have if you have to much flow your fish will be stressed and die
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:23 PM   #17
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Also if you do insist on turning the tank over 10 time witch u can do with a sump I would use 2 2 inch outlets or the tank would be very nosey turning over 550 gallons ph I turn my tank over about 5 times ph if u look at my profile and look at all my pics you will see what I mean
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Oh, so having that much power in the pump will make too much of a current.. I never thought of that.

Phin, The pictures should be attatched to that comment now, take a look. Would it be better to have the over flow on the right and the output on the left? My landlords said a definite no to holes in the walls
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Oh, so having that much power in the pump will make too much of a current.. I never thought of that.

Phin, The pictures should be attatched to that comment now, take a look. Would it be better to have the over flow on the right and the output on the left? My landlords said a definite no to holes in the walls
So most are on the same side the water coming in pushing to the other side bottom corna pushing the water up the glass across the top to the out let to cycle all the water
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