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Old 11-01-2005, 07:44 PM   #1
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Fancy reflectors- Worth it?

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I'll be building a DIY hood shortly with the AHsupply 2x 13w bright kit for lighting a 10 gallon. I'm wondering if the fancy reflectors they sell are really worth it-I was originally planning on just painting the inside of the hood white or making a simple parabolic reflector out of aluminum flashing.

Anyone who's used them care to comment?

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pm cz_cz.. he's used paint and AHsupply reflectors.. Ive seen the pics, there was a huge diffence..
yet I think if you used a good design for a flashing reflector I would think it would be a close alternitive..
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Old 11-01-2005, 09:59 PM   #3
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Maybe I'll give the flashing a try and let you all know how it works out... it cuts the price of the kit in half, so it has potential to be woth it. It'll be a beast to get the flashing to hold a 'w' shape tho I think; so I may end up with the 'restrike-tastic' parabola...

I will pm cz_cz to see if he'll post those pics here.

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Old 11-01-2005, 11:14 PM   #4
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I did not compare reflector to reflector, unfortunately. Look at how much light hits the substrate. Light in sump is the same in both pics. Here is 2x23w spiral screw-in CFL (restrike by bulb design is an issue) with painted white hood. 2x13w AHSupply Deluxe kit (their reflector)

I would buy their reflector but would mount the ballasts remotely if I did it over again.

WPG breaks down in small tanks, and 2.6wpg on a 10 is closer to medium light than high light. If you are planning a high light planted tank, consider 36w kit fwiw. I have to use 2x13w CF mentioned + 20w NO to grow high light plants: there is a set of pics here, with all plants grown through propogation. Notice that glosso still did not hug the substrate (I use CO2 and rich ferts).

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Old 11-01-2005, 11:52 PM   #5
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Wow-That looks pretty impressive czcz... very impressive! Kudos, and thanks for your input!

Medium light is about what I was hoping for, I'd like to be able to grow a limited selection of plants well w/ relatively low maint. ( little extra ferts needed and probably no CO2 for awhile). If I'm feeling ambitious in the future I could always cram another 13w bulb in there somewhere. I feel I will eventually be putting CO2 on this tank, how much of a difference would I really se at 2.6 wpg do you think?

I plan to mount the ballasts on the back of the hood if possible... I'll see what seems best once I get going. It depends largely on what scrap wood I have laying around to use for the hood.
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Old 11-02-2005, 01:43 AM   #6
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No problem, and thanks I found CO2 very beneficial even with the 2x23w with white paint, as I had noticeable algae with that light. It is very easy to DIY CO2 on a 10 and I think it is well worth the nominal time and cost, but Flourish Excel is another option. JME
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to be honest with you you can boil down the wires that acutally can not be in contact to usually 3 so moving the ballast far away from the hood just requires a length of decent extention cord if you think about it.. just an observation..
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Old 11-02-2005, 05:54 PM   #8
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My hood and tank is an old stainless steel Pemco actually (I believe they were a Metaframe knock-off), and I had to use a metal on metal epoxy to attach the ballasts internally. AHSupply 2x13w kit has two ballasts btw. I know you are wondering why I did not just mount them remotely to begin with: I ask myself this too
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I wonder why they go with 2 little ballasts? one for the ages I guess.. LOL
yea.. then it would be 2 extention cords to wire remotely.. lol
czcz your tank and hood are just old shool.. I dont think there were knock offs it was just the materials of choice at the time :P ..LOL
btw.. there are deals to be had on "industrial" ballasts off ebay.. little do they know its the same thing..
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