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Old 09-18-2013, 10:37 PM   #11
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Sponge filter. Clear airline hidden by plants, and provides some gas exchange.
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Old 09-19-2013, 03:12 PM   #12
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I did some research on sponge filters after your suggestion. It seems like a great choice here. Quick question that I was unable to find an answer to...how well does it work for water clarity and odor?
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Old 09-19-2013, 04:35 PM   #13
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Hello, and thanks for reading. Sorry this is a bit long.

I have been lugging around an old broken gumball machine for the past 3 years in hopes of one day converting it into a betta tank. I pulled it out and cleaned it up a few days ago, and have broken it down and stripped it of unnecessary parts.

I now have an empty base, a glass fish bowl that meets the dimensions of the original acrylic gumball bubble, and a lid.

I have everything worked out including an external heat source that will be attached to the bottom of the glass bowl via suction cups and housed on the interior of the base as to not been seen. I have run the power cord through the bottom of the base in the back as well. I tested the heat source and it keeps a stable water temp of 78 degrees, allowing for up to 4 degree temperature rise when the light is on or when the house is warmer in the winter time.

The problem I am faced with now is filtration. I know that betta fish are pretty versatile where filtration is concerned, and if weekly full water changes are done it is possible to keep one without filtration, but having kept a 50gal freshwater tank for several years I do not personally feel comfortable running ANY tank without a filter. So I have come to the masses for advice.

Initially I did not want any cords, tubes, etc entering the top of the bowl, as I felt it would detract from the aesthetics of the gumball machine theme. I now, however, do not care so much if I have an airline tube hidden by a plant or two. As long as the creature within is happy and well cared for. I also thought that if I change my mind and want a goldfish or frog, a filtered setup would better accommodate.

So, I've spent the day researching and surfing the web and decided to ask advice about two different filtration options for this small tank. (Larger tanks seem so much simpler where this is concerned) Obviously I would need a filter with a low level current for any one of my fish/frog options. The one that seems most appealing is the Lee's Round Under Gravel Bowl 2 gal filter, minus that ugly plastic plant. The other option was the Penn-Plax Smallword Pump & Filter Kit.

Both have their pros and cons in my eyes. But I am unfamiliar with either of these products and would hate to purchase one and regret it. Of course I plan on cycling for a couple of weeks before ever adding a live creature, to make sure the filter was doing it's job.

Also if anyone has any advice on lighting options I'd love to hear it. Initially I was just planning on affixing a battery operated waterproof LED unit to the inside of the lid via velcro for easy battery/bulb/fixture changes. But if I'm going to have the air tubing for a filter anyway, then there may be a better corded lighting option. (The lid is only about an inch deep and 4 1/2 inches in diameter.)
Ok I love this idea and would like to jump in with some input. If you are going to do this you may as well do it 100% to you satisfaction the first time! So the way I see it you want to maximize the tank space and minimize cords and other non asthetic additions. You could do a sponge filter but it will be unsightly and take up precious tank space (lets face it in a 3 gallon you need all you can get!)
What I would recomend is a sump. It will require more work to setup but I think in the end you will like it more. The other nice thing about it is the return can be placed so as to minimize flow!
There are 2 ways to do the sump. Either drill the bowl and run everything directly up through the bottom or run everything over the top. If you choose tbe latter you will want to devise a way to hide everything. I assume there is enough room in the bottom of the gunball machine for a very small sump? That would be ideal as it would hide everything.
Sounds like you are covered heating wise. Light wise LEDs are your best bet. How you want to run them could be tricky but I have 2 ideas. If you drill the tank (this would be what I would probably try if you are willing to buy another bowl if this one shatters) than you could run the LEDs wire through a piece of airline and out through the sump. It wouldnt be too difficult I dont think. Otherwise you can hide it the same way you do the sump return if you chose not to drill.
You can buy a LED string that is cuttable on amazon. I would shoot for 6500K and rgb. You should be able to find a cheap cuttable strand of these(if you want to spend a bit extra shoot for a more expensive single LED that is 6500 and rgb). Then I would do low light small plants to help with water quality.
These are my thoughts. It would be cool!
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I use sponge filters for lots of my betta tanks. No odor, water is clear. They are easily hidden, you can't even see them.
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Ok I love this idea and would like to jump in with some input. If you are going to do this you may as well do it 100% to you satisfaction the first time! So the way I see it you want to maximize the tank space and minimize cords and other non asthetic additions. You could do a sponge filter but it will be unsightly and take up precious tank space (lets face it in a 3 gallon you need all you can get!)
What I would recomend is a sump. It will require more work to setup but I think in the end you will like it more. The other nice thing about it is the return can be placed so as to minimize flow!
There are 2 ways to do the sump. Either drill the bowl and run everything directly up through the bottom or run everything over the top. If you choose tbe latter you will want to devise a way to hide everything. I assume there is enough room in the bottom of the gunball machine for a very small sump? That would be ideal as it would hide everything.
Sounds like you are covered heating wise. Light wise LEDs are your best bet. How you want to run them could be tricky but I have 2 ideas. If you drill the tank (this would be what I would probably try if you are willing to buy another bowl if this one shatters) than you could run the LEDs wire through a piece of airline and out through the sump. It wouldnt be too difficult I dont think. Otherwise you can hide it the same way you do the sump return if you chose not to drill.
You can buy a LED string that is cuttable on amazon. I would shoot for 6500K and rgb. You should be able to find a cheap cuttable strand of these(if you want to spend a bit extra shoot for a more expensive single LED that is 6500 and rgb). Then I would do low light small plants to help with water quality.
These are my thoughts. It would be cool!
+1. Pretty much what I was trying to get at. Speaking I usually won't put bettas in anything smaller then 5g, your gunna need every bit of space in that tank.
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I like the idea of the sump running through the bottom. Problem with cutting the base of the bowl is that it was very hard to find this bowl that fit the original dimensions of the acrylic bubble that originally came with the machine. I think it's a fantastic idea though. I think I'm more inclined to do either a small sponge filter or a sump through the lid. I'm definitely planning on LEDs. I checked out the strips and I can totally see this working, especially with filtration running through the lid as well. As far as hiding everything, if I use a tall enough plant in the back it should mask all of the lines. I'd probably then only put one more plant off to the side and toward the back as well, keeping a reasonable sized hide in the frontal open area.
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+1. Pretty much what I was trying to get at. Speaking I usually won't put bettas in anything smaller then 5g, your gunna need every bit of space in that tank.
Im actually considering trying this myself. I think it would be a fun project!
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I like the idea of the sump running through the bottom. Problem with cutting the base of the bowl is that it was very hard to find this bowl that fit the original dimensions of the acrylic bubble that originally came with the machine. I think it's a fantastic idea though. I think I'm more inclined to do either a small sponge filter or a sump through the lid. I'm definitely planning on LEDs. I checked out the strips and I can totally see this working, especially with filtration running through the lid as well. As far as hiding everything, if I use a tall enough plant in the back it should mask all of the lines. I'd probably then only put one more plant off to the side and toward the back as well, keeping a reasonable sized hide in the frontal open area.
Sounds good! You may want to build a cover for the wires in the back on the outside of the tank.
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I decided to try this! I have a gumball machine myself now!
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