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greenmaji · 10-16-2005, 09:58 PM

you would just need more [acronym:59e0fb847e="Power compact fluorescent"]PC[/acronym:59e0fb847e] for the same light output..reflectors take advantage of the light coming out of the top of the bulbs.. and [acronym:59e0fb847e="Power compact fluorescent"]PC[/acronym:59e0fb847e] is harder to take advantage of there top light even with good reflectors.

and lower [acronym:59e0fb847e="Kelvin or Potassium, depending on context"]K[/acronym:59e0fb847e] values give you more PAR or acuall usefull light.. they just dont look as good..

noteworthy · 10-16-2005, 11:10 PM

is this a steal or what?

http://www.innovativelights.com/ret-pc-diy-455.html

greenmaji · 10-17-2005, 09:58 AM

the ballast is worth about 40 bucks..
the bulbs ive seen for about 7 bucks a piece on ebay
If you [acronym:1e765b3c55="Do it yourself"]DIY[/acronym:1e765b3c55] a reflector you can do that for less then 10 bucks or so
4 strait pin clips, wire nuts and assortied assesories 20ish
so... that is a good deal.. :P

noteworthy · 10-17-2005, 07:15 PM

From what I understand it does not come with reflectors. I am curious if I should buy those on AH supply or make some? The AH ones seem very nice but I'm not exactly sure which one i sould need.. the 23 inch ones? then I would need 4 of them? Yikes.. expensive.

greenmaji · 10-18-2005, 07:58 AM

yep.. the yikes is what you would need. like 16 bucks a pop and you would need 4 of them.
the ones most sites sell for [acronym:cac7067ddc="Compact Flourescent"]CF[/acronym:cac7067ddc] are just flat sheets of medal (not as good as the AH supply ones, restrike)

there [acronym:cac7067ddc="Metal halide light"]MH[/acronym:cac7067ddc] deal isnt bad either.. everything but the bulb.. $80
http://www.innovativelights.com/uni-175-ret.html

noteworthy · 10-18-2005, 06:47 PM

I'd need two of thsoe tho.. correct?
bulb spreads 3 feet.. I need 4 foot covered

greenmaji · 10-19-2005, 02:14 AM

yea.. you would need 2 of those.. and some bulbs.. (you could get the cheapest ones you could find in the spectrum you want. 175 watts of the best bulbs possible would be too much light [acronym:e2e471a37c="In my opinion"]IMO[/acronym:e2e471a37c])

noteworthy · 10-19-2005, 10:08 PM

I think I'm going with the [acronym:28096d8629="Power compact fluorescent"]PC[/acronym:28096d8629] setup for 90 dollars. I'd have to add their 'cheap' reflector to put it around 120 dollars. I'm going to find an old atx power supply and jumper it to come on when plugged in so I can power 3 led lights for moon lights and run a couple of fans for ventilation.

greenmaji · 10-19-2005, 10:15 PM

computer power supplies are not nessisary for led moonlights.
and I would go cold cathode if it was me (the results look substantialy better [acronym:ab8142b4e9="In my opinion"]IMO[/acronym:ab8142b4e9])

noteworthy · 10-19-2005, 10:25 PM

Well under the [acronym:7e4f30d744="Do it yourself"]DIY[/acronym:7e4f30d744] moonlight there was a power adapter but they discontinued it from xoxide.com. Do you know where I can get a 110ac to 12v dc adapter with molex connectors for around 8 bucks?

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10-16-2005, 09:58 PM	#21
greenmaji Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: May 2005 Location: Central Kentucky Posts: 5,937	you would just need more [acronym:59e0fb847e="Power compact fluorescent"]PC[/acronym:59e0fb847e] for the same light output..reflectors take advantage of the light coming out of the top of the bulbs.. and [acronym:59e0fb847e="Power compact fluorescent"]PC[/acronym:59e0fb847e] is harder to take advantage of there top light even with good reflectors. and lower [acronym:59e0fb847e="Kelvin or Potassium, depending on context"]K[/acronym:59e0fb847e] values give you more PAR or acuall usefull light.. they just dont look as good..

10-16-2005, 11:10 PM	#22
noteworthy Aquarium Advice Freak Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 359 Images: 14	is this a steal or what? http://www.innovativelights.com/ret-pc-diy-455.html

10-17-2005, 09:58 AM	#23
greenmaji Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: May 2005 Location: Central Kentucky Posts: 5,937	the ballast is worth about 40 bucks.. the bulbs ive seen for about 7 bucks a piece on ebay If you [acronym:1e765b3c55="Do it yourself"]DIY[/acronym:1e765b3c55] a reflector you can do that for less then 10 bucks or so 4 strait pin clips, wire nuts and assortied assesories 20ish so... that is a good deal.. :P

10-17-2005, 07:15 PM	#24
noteworthy Aquarium Advice Freak Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 359 Images: 14	From what I understand it does not come with reflectors. I am curious if I should buy those on AH supply or make some? The AH ones seem very nice but I'm not exactly sure which one i sould need.. the 23 inch ones? then I would need 4 of them? Yikes.. expensive.

10-18-2005, 07:58 AM	#25
greenmaji Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: May 2005 Location: Central Kentucky Posts: 5,937	yep.. the yikes is what you would need. like 16 bucks a pop and you would need 4 of them. the ones most sites sell for [acronym:cac7067ddc="Compact Flourescent"]CF[/acronym:cac7067ddc] are just flat sheets of medal (not as good as the AH supply ones, restrike) there [acronym:cac7067ddc="Metal halide light"]MH[/acronym:cac7067ddc] deal isnt bad either.. everything but the bulb.. $80 http://www.innovativelights.com/uni-175-ret.html

10-18-2005, 06:47 PM	#26
noteworthy Aquarium Advice Freak Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 359 Images: 14	I'd need two of thsoe tho.. correct? bulb spreads 3 feet.. I need 4 foot covered

10-19-2005, 02:14 AM	#27
greenmaji Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: May 2005 Location: Central Kentucky Posts: 5,937	yea.. you would need 2 of those.. and some bulbs.. (you could get the cheapest ones you could find in the spectrum you want. 175 watts of the best bulbs possible would be too much light [acronym:e2e471a37c="In my opinion"]IMO[/acronym:e2e471a37c])

10-19-2005, 10:08 PM	#28
noteworthy Aquarium Advice Freak Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 359 Images: 14	I think I'm going with the [acronym:28096d8629="Power compact fluorescent"]PC[/acronym:28096d8629] setup for 90 dollars. I'd have to add their 'cheap' reflector to put it around 120 dollars. I'm going to find an old atx power supply and jumper it to come on when plugged in so I can power 3 led lights for moon lights and run a couple of fans for ventilation.

10-19-2005, 10:15 PM	#29
greenmaji Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: May 2005 Location: Central Kentucky Posts: 5,937	computer power supplies are not nessisary for led moonlights. and I would go cold cathode if it was me (the results look substantialy better [acronym:ab8142b4e9="In my opinion"]IMO[/acronym:ab8142b4e9])

10-19-2005, 10:25 PM	#30
noteworthy Aquarium Advice Freak Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 359 Images: 14	Well under the [acronym:7e4f30d744="Do it yourself"]DIY[/acronym:7e4f30d744] moonlight there was a power adapter but they discontinued it from xoxide.com. Do you know where I can get a 110ac to 12v dc adapter with molex connectors for around 8 bucks?