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Old 10-16-2005, 10:58 PM   #21
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you would just need more PC for the same light output..reflectors take advantage of the light coming out of the top of the bulbs.. and PC is harder to take advantage of there top light even with good reflectors.

and lower K values give you more PAR or acuall usefull light.. they just dont look as good..
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Old 10-17-2005, 12:10 AM   #22
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is this a steal or what?

http://www.innovativelights.com/ret-pc-diy-455.html
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Old 10-17-2005, 10:58 AM   #23
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the ballast is worth about 40 bucks..
the bulbs ive seen for about 7 bucks a piece on ebay
If you DIY a reflector you can do that for less then 10 bucks or so
4 strait pin clips, wire nuts and assortied assesories 20ish
so... that is a good deal.. :P
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Old 10-17-2005, 08:15 PM   #24
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From what I understand it does not come with reflectors. I am curious if I should buy those on AH supply or make some? The AH ones seem very nice but I'm not exactly sure which one i sould need.. the 23 inch ones? then I would need 4 of them? Yikes.. expensive.
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Old 10-18-2005, 08:58 AM   #25
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yep.. the yikes is what you would need. like 16 bucks a pop and you would need 4 of them.
the ones most sites sell for CF are just flat sheets of medal (not as good as the AH supply ones, restrike)

there MH deal isnt bad either.. everything but the bulb.. $80
http://www.innovativelights.com/uni-175-ret.html
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Old 10-18-2005, 07:47 PM   #26
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I'd need two of thsoe tho.. correct?
bulb spreads 3 feet.. I need 4 foot covered
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Old 10-19-2005, 03:14 AM   #27
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yea.. you would need 2 of those.. and some bulbs.. (you could get the cheapest ones you could find in the spectrum you want. 175 watts of the best bulbs possible would be too much light IMO)
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Old 10-19-2005, 11:08 PM   #28
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I think I'm going with the PC setup for 90 dollars. I'd have to add their 'cheap' reflector to put it around 120 dollars. I'm going to find an old atx power supply and jumper it to come on when plugged in so I can power 3 led lights for moon lights and run a couple of fans for ventilation.
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computer power supplies are not nessisary for led moonlights.
and I would go cold cathode if it was me (the results look substantialy better IMO)
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Old 10-19-2005, 11:25 PM   #30
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Well under the DIY moonlight there was a power adapter but they discontinued it from xoxide.com. Do you know where I can get a 110ac to 12v dc adapter with molex connectors for around 8 bucks?
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