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Old 01-27-2003, 01:38 AM   #1
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Need suggestions for a sump(rubbermaid, etc)

Greetings.

I would like your suggestions for a sump, preferably Rubbermaid(or suggest) with the following measurements(more or less) 25 inches long by 9 inches wide by 18 inches tall.

I'm not too thrilled on using plexiglass since it will bow or perhaps leak.

What can I use to make divisions in the sump and what kind of glue(silicone?) to use. Perhaps for the divisions using smaller containers, etc.

I want the sump to be if not wide or long enough, to be at least tall enough to hang a UV sterilizer, a skimmer, etc.

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Old 01-27-2003, 03:28 AM   #2
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this sounds exactly like the project i'm doing. it is a rubbermaid container 27X16X12. with a smaller container inside that will act as my partitions for the refugium.
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Old 01-27-2003, 09:58 AM   #3
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A glass aquarium makes a good sump. Acrylic (plexiglass) is very strong and will not leak if joined properly. Should you decide to try it, don't silicone it together...get some Weld On #16 acrylic glue. The only trouble with using the Rubbermaid container will be the partitions. I'm not sure how well silicone will stick to it. You might use some acrylic for the partitions and try the silicone...or maybe epoxy. If you used a glass tank...say a 20 long...you could have it drilled for the pump bulkhead and use an external pump. If you really need the 18" depth, you might look into a 20 high or a 29 gal tank. Kribbz idea of using a smaller Rubbermaid container inside the larger one as a partition sounds like it would work well also.
I think I'd ask around and do some research before I spent the money on a UV sterilizer. I believe you'll find it's something you won't really need. IMO, it would be better to save that money and put it towards a top of the line skimmer.
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Old 01-27-2003, 03:20 PM   #4
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logan,

how is your diy sump/refuge working out? have not heard you talk of it much recently.
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Old 01-27-2003, 08:28 PM   #5
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Thank you guys.

I will keep doing research.

I think it would have to be hand made or small rubbermaid since the width of the tank's stand is about 8 1/2 inches. a 29gal that I have is 12 1/2 inches wide and a 10gal is about 10 inches, so if there is nothing already made that fits in there, will definitely has to be DIY.

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Old 01-28-2003, 12:13 AM   #6
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Aaron,
It's working out well. I may cut it down and go with a sump underneath and just use the HOB for a fuge. My PC's are heating the tank up some and I'm thinking I might be able to cool it some in the sump. Also, I need a more accessible place for the skimmer. The truth, I guess, is that I can't leave anything alone .
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Old 01-28-2003, 08:10 AM   #7
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guilty as charged. I can't leave well enough alone also. I am always looking to see what I can improve or demolish. I currently have a Sealife Systems W/D 100 on my 55 gal. and I am thinking about changing...I find myself in LFS looking at tanks and thinking of how I can convert them into sumps/refs, and WalMart looking at Rubbermaid doing the same thing. KooKoo? I don't know.. I just hope my fish are forgiving to whatever I do...It is their domain I am messing with...
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I just build a refugium for my 75 gallon. I used a 20 long which was perfect for under the tank, except that my skimmer is too tall for it which is a bummer (but you can get a different size tank). I just bought the tank and went to lowes and bought some glass. They cut the glass partitions for me at home depot to the correct width and height that I wanted, then I siliconed it in. Took less than 2 hours (then many more letting the silicone solidify). With the glass tanks, you will easily be able to get covers/lighting for it, unlike rubbermaid containers. You will also be able to see what is going on inside the refugium easier. It is probably much more sturdy than rubbermaid. It looks nicer if you have someone peak under your tank, as well.

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Old 02-02-2003, 10:46 AM   #9
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Greetings.

You just used silicone to hold the glass together? or did you added something else to give it more security?

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I just bought some silicone at a aquarium store that is made by 'all glass', the same one they use to make their tanks. Onlyused about 1/2 the tube ($9 per tube). You can also use another type that you can get at home depot etc. I will try to get the name of it (but be carefult with this home depot stuff, there are type I and type II, you can only use one type, the other is dangerous for the fish...do a search for name on this forum). THe only challenge is having it held in place for a few hours while it drys. It is really a 2 person job (one to hold, one to silicone). I used tape across the top of the glass to keep it upright. Worked well. the silicone was plenty strong enough. Just when you fill the refugium, dont fill one compartment at a time or it will put pressure on the glass, fill them up equally. Good luck.

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