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Old 07-07-2003, 11:40 AM   #91
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hey guys,

I was hoping that maybe you could al post the specific model numbers of the lights that you used in this thread, so that i know what i am looking for in my local HD. Also, i would like to know which ones come with plugs finished, or if all them had to be wired up.

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Old 07-07-2003, 11:56 AM   #92
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I don't have the model # of one handy. If you go to HD and look in the section where all the security lights are, they'll be in with them. They will be the only fluorescent lights in there. The largest one, with the 65w bulb, is what most of us are using.
Here's a thought. When the ballasts die on these things, as one of mine has done, I wonder if a 2x59w electronic ballast would fire them? I'm thinking it should. That being the case, a 2x59 ballast, a couple of mogul sockets, 2 LOA bulbs, and some DIY reflectors would put you in business. Cheaper? Marginally maybe. Easier since you don't have to deal with the LOA enclosures? Probably.
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Old 07-07-2003, 12:23 PM   #93
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Mylar Tape sources?

someone in the thread mentioned Mylar tape as a quick and dirty reflector in this particular enclosure. I used mylar wapping paper in some of my DIY retrofit hoods for my amphibian tanks, but have never used the tape.

Where might i find this stuff, and what does the cost run for such an application?

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Old 07-08-2003, 01:49 AM   #94
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hey everyone i have read through this LONG thread and just have a couple questions. Those "work" lights that are at HD are they good enough for a SW tank with corals? Also i need some advice on ballasts, im looking at making a light kit that would have 4x96w PC's. It would have 2-10k white, and 2-10k attinic 03's. What is a good ballast i can use for these, am i able to use magnetic ballasts? I only have a home depot and menards where i live.
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You can use magnetics...eletronics would be a lot better though. You'll have $100 or better in the ballasts if you go with the HD ballasts. You might check into the new potted ballast that Icecap is making. It's supposed to handle 440 watts. It is not repairable. Champion Lighting has them I think. Won't be any cheaper, but you could run all four bulbs on one ballast...if you wanted to do that.
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Old 07-08-2003, 11:25 AM   #96
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logan;

the connector on the LOA bulb is only 2 conductors right? ... from that I can assume two different scenarios

1) The bulb is designed for instant start electronic ballast usage exclusively, and LOA saved money by shorting the filimants inside the bulb itself... this seems a bit unlikely though

2) The bulb is designed for exclusive use with a current limiting magnetic ballast and contains a starter inside the socket, and wiring the bulb would be similar to how other 2pin PC bulbs are wired to their ballasts ... trying to limit the current on a 65 watt bulb is probably what burns the ballasts out so quickly

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The only way we could find this out, without smashing open a bulb would be to try and find who manufactors the ballast and/or bulb (I doubt LOA makes it themselves), and see what the specs are

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In the event it is compatible with an electronic ballast, I'd go with the 4x32 rather than the 2x59 ... that way you might get more current (from two 'channels' as opposed to one)

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I guess HD has a fairly "liberal" return policy ... if your HD sells these things, buy a bulb, an electronic ballast and wire it up outside, to a long extension cord - so you can plug it in at a safe distance ... if it works, rejoice! ... if it starts on fire, explodes, or some such catastrophe, then think up a good excuse and see if HD will give you store credit
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well im looking for a good cheap ballast that will run 2x96 pc's wold a 4x32 run 2 of them or just one? Dont you think that a 4x32 pushing 132 w through a bulb is a little overkill on the bulb? If i was to use a magnetic ballast would it work with PC's?
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gooy,

I don't think Home Depot sells the Sylvania QuickTronic 2x59 electronic ballast, they seem to carry mainly GE stuff

GE's 4x32 ballast would work, use 3 of the 4 wires coming off of it, tape off the 4th wire, or use it to run a third lower-wattage bulb - you need one for each bulb ... those are $35 each here ...

my original recommendation stands, get a Fulham workhorse 7 ... it's a perfect match for 2x96 watt PCs

check out www.fulham.com ... they have a configuration selector where you input what bulbs you have and they tell you how to wire them and what ballast you need

also check out my post "diy PC lightbox completed" http://www.aquariumadvice.com/viewtopic.php?t=5131

I just did the same thing you are talking about, and it's turned out wonderfully.
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oh, one more thing ...

yes, a magnetic ballast would work too ... one of those 2x96 watt magnetic ballasts for the 8 foot long HO bulbs ... however, the draw backs are

1) that ballast costs $60 here

2) it won't run your bulbs nearly as bright as electronic

3) it's very noisey, unless you like 60hz HUMMMMMMM

4) it gets HOT

5) it's HUGE, and weighs about 10 lbs

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there's no way around it ... believe me, I've tried, searched high and low for cheap ballasts, and have found none (cheap like $10 to $20) ... so I settled for the Fulham ... at less than $40 it was a good price, and with Icecap like performance, a good value
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