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Old 06-05-2004, 11:32 PM   #21
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It really doesn't say whether is can be used "outside" as an external pump. It says it is fully submersible. My design here uses a external pump. But I think if you really wanted to, you could modify it to use a submersible.

You can go to Grainger Online and look at the pumps they have. I made a mistake on the price of the one I got. I paid 75.00 for it, but it sells for 109.00 at Grainger. Of course you could get it cheaper by looking online at different places.

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OK, I am now really impressed. What took me 2 days to do (clearing my water from the "Tropical Storm Sparky") now took less than 2 hours. After I get everything back into place and cleaned up I am going to open the filter and inspect the media to see what I got in there so far. I will post pics of that later.

Here are the before and after pics of tonight's sand storm.
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Old 06-06-2004, 12:38 AM   #23
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cannot wait to see the results!!
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Old 06-06-2004, 12:42 AM   #24
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btw how could i make a submersible pump work for your design?
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Old 06-06-2004, 01:18 PM   #25
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Ok, I busted down the filter this morming after running all night. The pictures I took will show that the 100 Micron filters at the very bottom of the filter did a pretty good job of "cleaning" the sand from the water. I still have a small amount of tweaking to do on this yet. Maybe with the filter media, changing the Micron size or type of media. I am open for suggestions on the filter media if anyone has any other ideas.

The first stage filter media is the bulk (pillow stuffing type) media. I put about 4 inches of that in there. The second (middle) layer is activated charcoal in an old pair of pantyhose my wife let me have. and the last layer (bottom) was the 100 Micron filter sheets. I put 2 of them in there. Each layer was seperated by a piece of eggcrate.

The first canister will go into production this week. I will be hard piping the one I use in. I will document the process, but I won't be posting pictures as I go along. Instead I will include them into the document.
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erally nice. but arent canisters like 100$??

my mistake havent really looked at canisters very well since im not interested with that at the time
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I'm new here and just got back into the hobby. Been 6 years without a tank.
Sparky... I like this idea of a homemade filter. Once you get the bugs worked out I might be able to scale it down for a smaller tank. Maybe a 1 gal plastic condement jar and a 100 to 300 GPH pump.
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Old 06-13-2004, 10:19 AM   #28
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hurry up with those plans , lol
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I have piped in my setup. Put everything together and filled the bucket with water. I tried for 3 and a half hours to get it started. I could not get it primed correctly. I got all pissed off, and took it all out. I have a Word Doc for building this complete with pictures. I don't know if it was just the way I did this thing or what, I just could not get it to fire. It works fine with the tubing (?????maybe) but with the hard piping I lost it somewhere. If anyone wants the file I got now just PM me. Maybe you will have better luck with it than I did. It works great with the tubing. I just didn't want it hanging around the tank. I am going to revisit this project, but only after I get this failure out of my system. I put alot of hard work into piping it in and tore it out in about 5 minutes. I have learned a few thing about the design in that 3 + hours of frustration. Hopefully when I restart this it will go a little better with the new found knowledge I got.

Well, live and learn. I only threw away about 20 dollars on pipe and fittings, so it wasn't a financial loss. If anyone may have a suggestion on to why this happened to me (no dumb jokes please..LOL) I would appreciate the feedback.

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Don't give up. Sounds like just a plumbing problem.
I would guess it could be 90 degree elbows. Did you use any? These pumps are so small they can't fight against any back pressure or restrictions. Sharp turns restrict flow.
Did you set it up with a longer run? Back pressure if the pipe is to long.
Maybe you need bleed valves at the high and low points to get the air out.
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